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<div style="margin-left:14.2pt;text-align:justify;line-height:17.0pt;mso-line-height-rule:exactly;tab-stops:270.0pt" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496210448588_11485"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-GB" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496210448588_11486" lang="EN-GB">Hello Empyeans,</span></div>
<div style="margin-left:14.2pt;text-align:justify;line-height:17.0pt;mso-line-height-rule:exactly;tab-stops:270.0pt" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496210448588_11487"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-GB" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496210448588_11488" lang="EN-GB">This discussion is growing so fast it’s not
easy to keep up! But I’d like briefly to respond to Margaret and Stirling re: the Williams quote. While enjoying the heady
feeling of having correctly identified 5/6 human or machine authors in the npr
article— But Stirling I like the way you approach machine or robot intelligence
as artificial, that is, I suppose, a tool. This seems to make intelligence
something closer to te military usage of the word as information. Yet to write
poetry seems to require association, entry into an as-if world. Perhaps tis is
where Margaret’s inclusion of gender takes hold, wih the basic question
reducing down to awareness—maybe even awarness of intelligence, then , further,
to awareness of applications of intelligence. What awareness, however? And
whose? Is the robot poem different if created by a cyborg? Are all robots
cyborgs simply because human programming is involved? Going back to William
Carlos Williams, after Margaret’s post I remembered that the Russian
Formalists, especially I think Viktor Shklovski or Shklovsky considered texts
in general but especially poetic texts to be machines. They are tools, surely, but
ones made up of series of speech acts (reference Judith Butler on gender here). Best wishes, Will<br></span></div><div dir="ltr">
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