<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Hi Ben, Meredith, and all,<br><br></div>I'm also thinking of Moore's call for a "revolutionary ecology of work," that must engage "paid human labor, unpaid human labor, and the unpaid labor of nature as a whole." I first him articulate these ideas at his conference called "Women, Natures, Colonies" this past summer. Hopefully he will continue to articulate these ideas in week 4.<br><br></div>So a critical question that should be asked alongside the others in this thread is whether these feedback mechanisms operate in service to capitalism or not, as this belies what species and what humans get to live and flourish... <br><br></div>A lot also could be said about the history of the idea of ecologies as ecosystems, and whether this is a worthwhile, or accurate way of understanding dynamics between species... Lot's of interesting overlaps between early cybernetics, ideas of ecosystems, and design processes like permaculture....<br><br></div>-M<br><div><div><div><div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_8281886742068559260gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 8:49 PM, Meredith Drum <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:meredithdrum@gmail.com" target="_blank">meredithdrum@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">----------empyre- soft-skinned space----------------------<br>
Hello All,<br>
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Thank you, Ben, for inviting us to consider how our projects might address the questions Brian (and you) raised.<br>
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I usually work at small scale, yet with the intent to shift policy on small scale, for certain. My collaborative Oyster City Project was specifically addressing policy shift re NYC pollution management and aquatic ecology remediation / bio-remediation. Yet, importantly, this project does not involve collaborating with animals. That is not something I do.<br>
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I am excited to hear others address this and will continue to respond.<br>
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Best,<br>
Meredith<br>
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> On Oct 13, 2017, at 3:40 PM, Benjamin Schultz-Figueroa <<a href="mailto:baschult@ucsc.edu" target="_blank">baschult@ucsc.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
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> ----------empyre- soft-skinned space----------------------<br>
> Hi all,<br>
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> I wonder if it's possible to bring together some of the different threads of this conversation? On the one hand, we have the pressing problems of incoming climate disaster, which Brian observes "will now force new experiments in land management." The question of how this management manifests, and what role nonhuman animals will play in this realization, is paramount. As Brian concludes: "Can we imagine a world in which ever-larger numbers of people change their own behavior according to the cues they receive from animals?"<br>
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> On the other hand, we have a really amazing collection of encounters between human artists and animal subjects. Collections of humans, crows, salmon, oysters, among others, have worked together to produce a variety of mediated conversations about ethics, land-use, and point-of-view (human or otherwise).<br>
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> Drawing from the basic theme of science fiction that Margaretha began this week with, I'd love to hear this week's artists speculate about how they might answer Brian's question. What would a world look like in which the media works that you (co-)produce with animals were taken as informing policies of land management, social organization, agricultural practices, etc.? Do your films/videos/installations imply a larger, scaled up, possible method for tackling the kinds of design questions that Brian raised?<br>
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> All the best,<br>
> -Ben<br>
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