<div><div dir="auto">such an important conversation. thanks!</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I work with plants and fungi. Which particular species, spores, seeds matters a lot. Regardless of what names “we” (moderns, elites) choose, things act and react, travel, etc. So if one really needs to spread spores to make symbolic statements, one might be meticulous and careful about which spores, which material effects. Fungal blasts, blights destroy fields, forests, plantations, etc. Others rebuild them. Mycorrhizals are not necessarily good. Saprobes are not necessarily bad. We know little about them. but we can at least try to be specific about what to use. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I hope that as interdisciplinary artists-scientists, we might try to figure out small, grounded ways of really listening to these materialities anew, to figure out how they act in the world —instead of assuming that these are already known, or that they are ours to play with. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Elaine</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 5:50 AM John Jordan <<a href="mailto:artactivism@gn.apc.org">artactivism@gn.apc.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">----------empyre- soft-skinned space----------------------<div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><br></div><div>This article has some interesting sections about the Nazi mix of invasive species discourse and its policies of purity</div><div><b><br></b></div><div><b>Confronting introduced species: a form of xenophobia ?</b></div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://fwf.ag.utk.edu/mgray/wfs560/biological_invasions.pdf" target="_blank">http://fwf.ag.utk.edu/mgray/wfs560/biological_invasions.pdf</a></div></div><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 13 Jun 2018, at 08:58, Brian Holmes <<a href="mailto:bhcontinentaldrift@gmail.com" target="_blank">bhcontinentaldrift@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_1754415725364606390Apple-interchange-newline"><div>----------empyre- soft-skinned space----------------------<div><div>Greets John! Greets Shu Lea! <br></div><div>Invasive species is a terrible term, for sure, but zebra and quagga mussels have turned Lake Michigan a beautiful pure almost Aryan blue, and they've basically wiped out almost all other life in the lake... They were brought in the bilge water of freighters coming from the Black Sea, as quite a few others have been; and though it would be relatively easy to transfer the cargo of these ships to trains before they ever get to the Great Lakes, nothing is done, apparently because the US and Canada are so proud of engineering the locks of St Lawrence Seaway. Or maybe it's just because the state only thinks in terms of money, production and trade, and not of beings and balances and histories and futures. I guess the main thing is to be aware of the consequences of what one does, and of what powerful forces in out societies do, and to struggle not for purity or even Nature, but for more vital and viable tomorrows all around.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks to everyone for this thread and the whole series, it's beautiful, Brian<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 8:03 PM, Alan Sondheim <span><<a href="mailto:sondheim@panix.com" target="_blank">sondheim@panix.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">----------empyre- soft-skinned space----------------------<br>
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I think you're referring to Lorenz possibly? But the answer begs the question in a sense; I'd rather start from an in-depth knowledge of a landscape/biome, rather than aryan purity.<br>
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