<div dir="ltr">I really appreciate this dialogue and this particular response Elaine.<div><br></div><div>It's difficult to read about invasive species and not think of the way this language is used in regards to humans/children/borders/land as it very directly affects migration etc.</div><div><br></div><div>Additionally, I am from Los Angeles where nearly everything that grows is thought of as being "invasive". For better or for worse, the palm tree is such a symbol of LA (I always think of the burning ones during the LA uprising) and has (supposedly?) dramatically increased the rat population. I have no idea if these are tall tales...in a way they are even interesting to me in retrospect as tall tales given the space that some of you occupy in actually studying these rebellious spores and creatures.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks again.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 12:06 PM, Elaine Gan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:eganuc@gmail.com" target="_blank">eganuc@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">----------empyre- soft-skinned space----------------------<br><div><div dir="auto">for Aviva,</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">How to listen: some wise feminists are calling for extended field observations, or collaborative practice (combine artists, social-natural scientists), or historical research. basically, trying to get to know an organism on its terms. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">non/native conflicts: I think these binaries are colonial, violent in themselves. Species are relational. A plant becomes invasive bec of certain conditions (usually monoculture or chemical overdose, i.e. industry). and how exactly do we delineate introduced or endemic? species (including plants) move around a very great deal. I don’t think it is the work of art to categorize and resolve these conflicts. I think the hard work is opening spaces where these novel interactions can be studied beyond colonial rhetoric. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">E</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 12:18 PM Aviva Rahmani <<a href="mailto:ghostnets@ghostnets.com" target="_blank">ghostnets@ghostnets.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">----------empyre- soft-skinned space----------------------<br>
How would you propose we listen, Elaine? How would we distinguish conflicts, for example between introduced and endemic species?<br>
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