<div dir="ltr">Hi Sergio, List,<div><br></div><div>I wanted to briefly follow up on this. Even though July is over, I don't think there's an August discussion, so hopefully it's still ok to respond.</div><div><br></div><div>I thought the questions of the relation between Giles' work and Heidegger's conference was interesting, and the matter-of-fact, possibly flippant, answer equally interesting. It brought some very open-ended questions to mind: What type of relation is to be desired between an artwork and a matter of philosophy or theory? A relationship of translation? A one-to-one relationship? Appropriation? Is theory a muse to artists? Vise-versa? </div><div><br></div><div>Obviously the answers are case-by-case, if answerable at all. Maybe it's interesting to think about these questions in relation to July's experiment on the list though. I think the various responses to each artwork--the various mental maps of interpretation illustrated by each contributor--point to a mix of the above possibilities. And nobody laid out a detailed investigation between an artwork and any single example of theory. But maybe that was because of who I invited, and/or the structure of the responses. I wonder if other contributors would have pursued this path?</div><div><br></div><div>Best wishes,</div><div>Dan</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 11:20 PM Daniel Lichtman <<a href="mailto:danielp73@gmail.com">danielp73@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Sergio, <div>At risk of influencing (contaminating) your response to Ian's work, Ian wrote the following to me when I followed up with him:</div><div><br></div><div>"<span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">I borrowed the title alone - the book was in an airb&b that we rented when we first moved to nyc in 2014"</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on this relation between the work and Heidegger's conference!</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Best,</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Dan</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><br></span></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 7:16 PM Sergio Basbaum <<a href="mailto:sbasbaum@gmail.com" target="_blank">sbasbaum@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">----------empyre- soft-skinned space----------------------<div dir="ltr">Sorry, this message should be adressed to Daniel,<div><br></div><div>Does Gilles "On the way to language" bring any relation to Heidegger's work?</div><div><br></div><div>best</div><div>s </div><div id="m_-8396467786810213173m_-8685520577163329908m_-2605961860218423513DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br> <table style="border-top:1px solid #d3d4de">
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