<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000">Hello everyone,</font><div><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000">I so much agree with what has just been said;)</font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000">On the subject one of the most beautiful things I have heard so far is in Bixa Travesty documentary in which Mc Linn Da Quebrada says that our body is our own territory of experimentation;)</font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000">also loved the idea of the documentary Sea Horse about the man who had a baby,</font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000">Cheers</font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000">Isabelle</font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000"><br clear="all"></font><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000"><a href="http://www.isabellearvers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/animLogo.gif" target="_blank"><img alt="http://www.isabellearvers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/animLogo.gif" src="http://www.isabellearvers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/animLogo.gif"></a><br>Isabelle Arvers<br>Curator, art critic and artist<br>Wattsap: +33 661 998 386<br><a href="http://www.isabellearvers.com" target="_blank">http://www.isabellearvers.com</a><br>Director of Kareron<a href="http://www.kareron.com" target="_blank"> www.kareron.com</a></font></div><div dir="ltr"><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/ArtGamesWorldTour" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/ArtGamesWorldTour</a><br>twitter: @zabarvers</font></div><div dir="ltr"><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000"><a href="http://instagram.com/zabarvers" target="_blank">instagram.com/zabarvers</a><br><a href="http://youtube.com/zabarvers" target="_blank">youtube.com/zabarvers</a><br><a href="https://vimeo.com/isabellearvers" target="_blank">https://vimeo.com/isabellearvers</a><br>Skype ID: iarvers</font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000"><br></font></div></div><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000"><br></font><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000">Le mer. 11 sept. 2019 à 13:13, Jaimes Mayhew <<a href="mailto:jaimes.mayhew@gmail.com">jaimes.mayhew@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br></font></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000">----------empyre- soft-skinned space----------------------</font><div dir="auto"><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000">Hi everyone,</font><div><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000">I have been in this listserve since 2008 and I can’t recall ever posting, but I was inspired to share that seeing this conversation made my heart swell. I am also transgender, and transitioned early in my career. </font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000">I’m struck that just 15-20 years ago, seeing this kind of conversation about trans* people on a list for art people seemed impossible. I’ve found people who are trans* in every city I’ve lived in via social media as a way to make friends and find allies. First Friendster, then MySpace and now Facebook. </font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000">McKenzie, I am a fan of your work, and was so excited to see you present at CAA in NYC a couple of years ago. I remember seeing you and wondering if you might be family. </font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000">What else can I say? I’m grateful for this moment.<br><br></font><div id="gmail-m_-9157251507398151978AppleMailSignature" dir="ltr"><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000">Sent from my phone. Please excuse any typos or brevity.</font></div><div dir="ltr"><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000"><br>On Sep 10, 2019, at 6:05 AM, warkk <<a href="mailto:WarkK@newschool.edu" target="_blank">WarkK@newschool.edu</a>> wrote:<br><br></font></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><span><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000">----------empyre- soft-skinned space----------------------</font></span></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr"><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr"><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000">When i came out (on Facebook, natch), Sandy sent me a message which said: "Now you know why, when i met you, i made you nervous."</font><div><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000">True story. I had so much internalized transphobia because i knew i was clinging on to masculinity by a thread. </font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000">"The internet" has a lot to answer for. It turns out media designed for extracting surplus information out of us is a great breeding ground for Nazis. </font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000">Then again, it is a space where trans ppl can find each other. I'm transitioning with the help of big sisters i know IRL -- but met on twitter. </font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000">Then again again, its a space for ppl who hate us. Its exhausting playing whack-a-mole with ppl who think you are not human.</font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000">The actual German-style Nazis started with queer and trans ppl too. The Nazi-book burning pictures you see most often are of the Hirschfeld library.</font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000">Who was Hirschfield? Who was Harry Benjamin? What was the medicalized model of the transsexual? Well for that you'd need to read this:</font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000"><a href="http://www.sterneck.net/gender/stone-posttranssexuel/index.php" target="_blank">http://www.sterneck.net/gender/stone-posttranssexuel/index.php</a><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000">-- in which Sandy became big sister to us all. </font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000">Ironically enough, for complicated reasons, i'm among sisters who all call ourselves transsexuals again. </font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000">But then one of themes is change, right?</font></div></div></div><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000"><br></font><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000">On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 2:17 AM Allucquere Rosanne Stone <<a href="mailto:allucquere.stone@gmail.com" target="_blank">allucquere.stone@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></font></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000">----------empyre- soft-skinned space----------------------<br>
Hi folks, Sandy here. McKenzie and I met in the mythic time of the latter part of the XXth Century, when she (then he) met a busful of middle-aged theoreticians debarking at a conference venue. McKenzie glanced at me and then stared with an expression I interpreted as loathing, and which later I realized was something more akin to terror. I thought that they might be an F2M afraid of being outed, so out of courtesy I gave them a wide berth. In retrospect I wish I hadn’t. Roads not taken, ships that pass in the night…<br>
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At any rate, we’re here now, and it’s a great pleasure.<br>
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Yeah, I’ve seen a lot of young transpeople in what at some point in the past was a general catchphrase for personal turbulence: going through changes. Right. Ch-ch-ch-changes. Who knew.<br>
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Well. The present moment is so chockfull of changes. A close relative, an intelligent, perceptive, empathetic and caring person, is a Trumpist. J Epstein, an intelligent, perceptive philanthropist, was a raging pedophile. Valerie Plame has launched a campaign video that either reduces or elevates politics to the level of Hollywood spectacle — literally… all it lacks is Jason Statham and Vin Diesel getting out of the car behind her. A woman has given birth to a cow’s head. We’re all busy slouching toward our particular Bethlehem. What’s not to like?<br>
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I’ll say something about change that’s more related to this thread later. This is just a little introductory blurt until I have more time.<br>
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Allucquere Rosanne Stone<br>
Drive-by Theoretician<br>
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Faust: How comes it then that thou art out of hell?<br>
Meph: Why this is hell, nor am I out of it.<br>
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