<div dir="ltr">oh, i wanted to add -- given Sandy's truly extensive background in all things audio --<div><br></div><div>one of the skeins of the network i fell into, via, twitter, is trans women who are ravers. </div><div><br></div><div>There's something about this extremely relentless, minimal music that has a trans following. It works for me, so i get it. </div><div><br></div><div>Its so lacking in the narrative or emotional habits of music that you are free to project your own feelings and body into it. </div><div><br></div><div>In other words its great for dysphoria. </div><div><br></div><div>I was taken by the hand by sisters who led me into the bowels of Brooklyn for raves at which trans women get in free and are always on the list.</div><div><br></div><div>This looped me back to 90s culture, where i discovered European techno through its overlap with the digital avant-gardes who did their theory-work via listserves like <a href="http://nettime.org">nettime.org</a> and indeed empyre. </div><div><br></div><div>m</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 12:24 AM warkk <<a href="mailto:WarkK@newschool.edu">WarkK@newschool.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Thanks Jaimes,<div> When i came out, nobody who actually knew me even slightly seemed at all surprised. And a lot of ppl who know me well were like -- finally!</div><div><br></div><div>I'd be curious to know what the experience was like of finding other trans ppl on Friendster and Myspace. I didn't. I started with Tumblr. </div><div><br></div><div>I came out on Facebook because it seemed that was where my professional identity was, and where ppl who knew me from Australia were. </div><div><br></div><div>But in terms of constructing the community i needed, that happened mostly via coming out on twitter. Three trans women then reached out to me direclty. All three i'd count as friends and one a sigificant big sister to me. She connected to to a second who has that role in my transition, via twitter dm. A third i found independently, but also via twitter. </div><div><br></div><div>I'm also now connected to a skein of networks of trans ppl via twitter, one strand is writers, one is academics, another is about tech. Another is more specifically New York based and is trans ppl i', friendly with but not (or not yet) particularly close to. </div><div><br></div><div>I'm interested in this both as a trans woman and as a media scholar, of course. </div><div><br></div><div>m</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 12:12 AM Jaimes Mayhew <<a href="mailto:jaimes.mayhew@gmail.com" target="_blank">jaimes.mayhew@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">----------empyre- soft-skinned space----------------------<div dir="auto">Hi everyone,<div>I have been in this listserve since 2008 and I can’t recall ever posting, but I was inspired to share that seeing this conversation made my heart swell. I am also transgender, and transitioned early in my career. </div><div><br></div><div>I’m struck that just 15-20 years ago, seeing this kind of conversation about trans* people on a list for art people seemed impossible. I’ve found people who are trans* in every city I’ve lived in via social media as a way to make friends and find allies. First Friendster, then MySpace and now Facebook. </div><div><br></div><div>McKenzie, I am a fan of your work, and was so excited to see you present at CAA in NYC a couple of years ago. I remember seeing you and wondering if you might be family. </div><div><br></div><div>What else can I say? I’m grateful for this moment.<br><br><div id="gmail-m_-386588537660485722gmail-m_9122893467543654148AppleMailSignature" dir="ltr">Sent from my phone. Please excuse any typos or brevity.</div><div dir="ltr"><br>On Sep 10, 2019, at 6:05 AM, warkk <<a href="mailto:WarkK@newschool.edu" target="_blank">WarkK@newschool.edu</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><span>----------empyre- soft-skinned space----------------------</span></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">When i came out (on Facebook, natch), Sandy sent me a message which said: "Now you know why, when i met you, i made you nervous."<div><br></div><div>True story. I had so much internalized transphobia because i knew i was clinging on to masculinity by a thread. </div><div><br></div><div>"The internet" has a lot to answer for. It turns out media designed for extracting surplus information out of us is a great breeding ground for Nazis. </div><div><br></div><div>Then again, it is a space where trans ppl can find each other. I'm transitioning with the help of big sisters i know IRL -- but met on twitter. </div><div><br></div><div>Then again again, its a space for ppl who hate us. Its exhausting playing whack-a-mole with ppl who think you are not human.</div><div><br></div><div>The actual German-style Nazis started with queer and trans ppl too. The Nazi-book burning pictures you see most often are of the Hirschfeld library.</div><div><br></div><div>Who was Hirschfield? Who was Harry Benjamin? What was the medicalized model of the transsexual? Well for that you'd need to read this:</div><div><a href="http://www.sterneck.net/gender/stone-posttranssexuel/index.php" target="_blank">http://www.sterneck.net/gender/stone-posttranssexuel/index.php</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>-- in which Sandy became big sister to us all. </div><div><br></div><div>Ironically enough, for complicated reasons, i'm among sisters who all call ourselves transsexuals again. </div><div><br></div><div>But then one of themes is change, right?</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 2:17 AM Allucquere Rosanne Stone <<a href="mailto:allucquere.stone@gmail.com" target="_blank">allucquere.stone@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">----------empyre- soft-skinned space----------------------<br>
Hi folks, Sandy here. McKenzie and I met in the mythic time of the latter part of the XXth Century, when she (then he) met a busful of middle-aged theoreticians debarking at a conference venue. McKenzie glanced at me and then stared with an expression I interpreted as loathing, and which later I realized was something more akin to terror. I thought that they might be an F2M afraid of being outed, so out of courtesy I gave them a wide berth. In retrospect I wish I hadn’t. Roads not taken, ships that pass in the night…<br>
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At any rate, we’re here now, and it’s a great pleasure.<br>
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Yeah, I’ve seen a lot of young transpeople in what at some point in the past was a general catchphrase for personal turbulence: going through changes. Right. Ch-ch-ch-changes. Who knew.<br>
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Well. The present moment is so chockfull of changes. A close relative, an intelligent, perceptive, empathetic and caring person, is a Trumpist. J Epstein, an intelligent, perceptive philanthropist, was a raging pedophile. Valerie Plame has launched a campaign video that either reduces or elevates politics to the level of Hollywood spectacle — literally… all it lacks is Jason Statham and Vin Diesel getting out of the car behind her. A woman has given birth to a cow’s head. We’re all busy slouching toward our particular Bethlehem. What’s not to like?<br>
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I’ll say something about change that’s more related to this thread later. This is just a little introductory blurt until I have more time.<br>
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Allucquere Rosanne Stone<br>
Drive-by Theoretician<br>
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Faust: How comes it then that thou art out of hell?<br>
Meph: Why this is hell, nor am I out of it.<br>
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<strong>Professor of Media and Culture</strong><br>
<span style="color:rgb(232,46,33)">EUGENE LANG COLLEGE</span><br>
<span>65 w11th st, NEW YORK, NY 10011</span></p><p style="font-family:arial;font-size:10px;color:rgb(102,102,102);padding:10px 0px 0px 5px;margin:0px">
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<strong>Professor of Media and Culture</strong><br>
<span style="color:rgb(232,46,33)">EUGENE LANG COLLEGE</span><br>
<span>65 w11th st, NEW YORK, NY 10011</span></p><p style="font-family:arial;font-size:10px;color:rgb(102,102,102);padding:10px 0px 0px 5px;margin:0px">
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