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<p>dear Oliver</p>
<p>indeed, i never read about this connection you made here with HIV
virus. I have myself done a scifi cyherpunk film about HIV virus
mutation in the future. (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://fluidthemovie.com">http://fluidthemovie.com</a>).</p>
<p>"The rich biodiversity of primary forests might start resisting
in completely unanticipated and catastrophic ways."</p>
<div>This warning is alarming.</div>
<p>AMAZON continues burning... just want to mention as we enter into
the 4th week of our sejour here in -empyre-, but feel free to
continue the AMAZON IS BURNING thread... <br>
closely watched.</p>
<p>thanks lots</p>
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<div dir="auto">Thanks for this razor sharp contribution to the
slowly expanding awareness of what living beings innately
understand. Hasn’t the rich biodiversity of primary forests
been resisting in unanticipated and catastrophic ways for
centuries? Are we not witnessing accelerated and conflated
natural disasters? Not long from today, the word Sargassum,
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<div dir="ltr">The multispecies resistance can cut both
ways once primary ecosystems are parsed up with roads
and exposed to globalized trade flows. Freed from their
predators or other ecologies of containment, some of the
more protean species will take this as an opportunity to
explore new habitats, and with viruses and microbes,
that can be super bad news.
<div>When the rainforest of equatorial Africa started
getting fragmented by resource extraction, there
arose the set of perfect conditions to allow HIV to
jump from its simian to human hosts - the bushmeat
trade, long-distance trucking, roadside sex trade
workers, systemic poverty and displacement. The result
was an epidemic for which the world was completely
unprepared. I remember in the '80s (along with many
others) trying to piece together the epidemiology of
how it was that friends in Toronto were dying by the
score of illness completely unknown a few years
before. Who would have guessed that it stemmed from
roadbuilding, mining and logging in the vast
watersheds of the Congo?</div>
<div>The rich biodiversity of primary forests might
start resisting in completely unanticipated and
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<div>Good morning -empyre-,<br>
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<div>And yes thank you so much Lucio for this
insight, and for the link. It is very important. I
believe I found the English version: <a
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<div>It does seem like it all starts with the roads.
The roads introduce new species in the area as
they get made, possibilities for logging come
about. New edge effects are created and
microclimates emerge that allow for a greater
chance of fires, ultimately directing the
landscape away from rainforest and toward savannah
where the plantationocene can take hold --
radically depleting species diversity and
introducing new species that also exhaust the soil
(cattle deplete nutrients in the pastures). The
roads are resource frontiers, and also involve the
process of 'making cheap' -- a process Jason Moore
describes (and who is referenced by Escher in
another thread). Perhaps we can pick up the
epistemological question again in the future --
the question of distance, speed, and totalizing
views (yes, creating the 'we' vision).<br>
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<div>On the ground, I am so interested in the
foreign species that travel along these roads --
how invasive plant species *sometimes* give big ag
grief and can often remediate the landscape,
reintroducing nutrients and re texturing the soil,
sometimes so the more native species can move back
in (Oliver has many examples of this happening in
North America) . I'd love to learn what plants
could do such things along these new roads in
Brazil. Also interested in species that help fight
big ag in alliance with humans. In Argentina for
example anti gmo activists throw amaranth into
fields (a superweed, a spinach, a grain): PDF: <a
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href="https://read.dukeupress.edu/environmental-humanities/article-pdf/9/2/204/517303/204beilin.pdf"
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target="_blank">https://ourworld.unu.edu/en/rethinking-a-weed-the-truth-about-amaranth</a>)
A big shout out to multispecies resistance.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi, everybody.
<div>I've been lurking until now, following
the discussion and preferably trying to do
not interfere. Margaretha, though, has
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<div>Today I waked up with a message sent by
a colleague through Whats Up, with a link
to The Intercept ,where a young brazilian
journalist, from their crew, grabbed some
information about the plans that the
Govern - and particularly the Army - have
been preparing concerning Amazon area. The
militaries basically reedited an ancient
doctrine about security on the Amazon
frontier. Among several conspiration
theories involving the construction of an
independent country for Yanomoanis in
collaboration with Venezuela, and other
klind of misconception there is an
intention to get around ancient plans of
roads construction in the region. There is
already a road that connects Cuiabá (in
the middle of the country) to Santarem. Up
to this place, there begins the region
known as Calha Norte, which was involved
in disputes and projects since Military
Dictatorship in the 70s and 80s. It gave
raise to a rumorous situation that
involved, in the past, some militaires and
empresarios. Well, here they come again,
projecting the occupation of Indigenous
areas with mining and people brought from
other parts of the country, with the aim
to avoid a supposed "invasion" of Chinese
immigrants that also supposedly have benn
growing in Suriname. Several detais,
including a presentation with maps and
some audio registering the meetings done
in the state of Pará, were disclosed by
Intercept. The material is astonishing
even to those of us who were born and in
Brazil and to all that live here.
<div>Now I arrive to the important point
Margaretha sustained in her
commentaries. The roads we see in the
map, part of it, probably represent
these efforts to open ways up to North
Amazon, a place, as an specialst heard
by Intercept says, so isolated that does
not demand concerns on fronteer
security. There is indeed a plan to
occupy Amazon with roads and it is
really important for some <i>tactical</i>
reasons: first, because it increases
petrol and cars lobby, second because it
was one of the main politics of
Dictatorship in the 70s, through the
absurd project of TransAmazonica road.
Nowaday it seems to be a reedition of
ancient positions susteinad by some
falcons from the Army.</div>
<div>If, from one side, says Margaretha,
perhaps the world get information that
constructs a "we vision" (from the
standpoint of the ones who did not
suffer colonization directly - "seeing
from afar") , on the other there is an
analogous situation concerning people
that live in in southwest or south
parts of the Country, which means also
"seeing from afar". Nevertheless, the
same network has been making it possible
to have fast access to such an
information as it was disclosed by
journalist Tatiana Dias through
Intercept today. Intercept uses the same
Network that can either reinforce
distances, either eliminate them. To use
a cliché, information is a crucial tool
to this very moment. </div>
<div>Link to the story (I'm afraid it is
only in Portuguese): <a
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target="_blank">https://theintercept.com/2019/09/19/plano-bolsonaro-paranoia-amazonia/</a> </div>
<div>Best</div>
<div>Lucio Agra</div>
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<div>Dear All,</div>
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<div>Hope your day of CLIMATE STRIKE!
brings new energy and fresh
beginnings to the struggle.</div>
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<div>Fabi thank you for your posts so
full of energy and for a vision of
agroecology. I share your
inspiration for this set of
cultivation practices, and worry
deeply about the ways it can be
taken up by capital.... But perhaps
as you suggest it is a way out, a
tear on the edges of modernity
(Eduardo Gudynas argues the way out
of modernity will be determined by
Latin America....)</div>
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<div>I have another question for you
Fabi and for Dan. One of the
striking things about the arial
images of the Amazon, are the
fishbone patterns we see as roads
get developed. We can actually see
the metabolic pathways of capitalism
in these patterns. But I'm wondering
about the ways 'we' see the Amazon
from afar -- the technologies we
use, and how they themselves are
implicated in colonial histories and
colonial futures that have us
leaving earth -- could you comment.
How do you use these mapping and
satellite technologies in your own
practice?</div>
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<div>In solidarity,</div>
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<div>A lurker here ... thanks for
the thread. "A thousand years
ago" indeed. Even an eight year
interval under the present
exploding plastic inevitable
airborne toxic event is a lost
slave ship of failure. Pankaj
Mishra's book review of David
French scraped the bulbous lard
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subtitled <i>An Intimate
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People</i>, finds no place for
the nearly 800 million Indians
who still depend on agriculture
for a living. The quiet
catastrophe in rural areas—the
collapse of water tables,
spiralling debt, the poisoning
of cultivable land, and tens of
thousands of farmer suicides—is
absent from <i>India</i>.
French does talk to one man with
a farming background at length;
but the latter turns out to be
an upwardly mobile adivasi at a
Californian-style vineyard owned
by Sula Wines. Claiming that
Mahadev Kolis “normally prefer”
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wine-drinking” in India."</div>
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