<div dir="ltr">Thanks for your insightful comments and dialogue, Margaret.<div><br></div><div>As far as "authorial mentors," to coin a phrase from Dr. Gholdy Muhammad, Lucille Clifton ranks as #1. People say that, like Clifton, my poems can be written in simple language, but still pack a punch. She also does deep ancestral work in her poetry. I love and am indebted to her praxis of Black Feminist Conjure!</div><div>I love how Nikki Giovanni plays on the page and on the mic. She has fun and is so unapologetic....and she works through what we call now 'intergenerational healing' through her work.</div><div>Mahogany L. Browne writes for and with Black girls and women. she reps our beloved Cali and also pays homage to our legacies of/from The Great Migration.</div><div>I've recently been exploring Toi Derricotte investigation of her own pregnancy, labor, and motherhood, namely in "natural birth."</div><div><br></div><div>I've definitely been dedicated to my hybrid practice/play since my doctoral program (so over the last 11 years). And I carried into my roles as a post-doc, Assistant Professor, and now Association Professor and administrator. I never asked for permission to blend poetry and public health, I just did it and provided "receipts"--cited or nodded to dope folks outside and inside of the academy who also practiced this rigorous play. Dr. Rich Furman was an early guide--he's a full professor of Social Work and former chair and a poet--well-published in academic journals and poetry ones. I believe he's pursuing a MFA now. He was doing and publishing about "research poetry," which I went onto adapt at "participatory narrative analysis"--doing rigorous work as a qualitative research, but then playing with the transcripts and inviting my participants to play with their words/transcripts and the themes therein and to look at how those themes resonated with other poets and to create poems from those transcripts and from those themes. I definitely started this by playing during my dissertation (when folks wondered how I could afford to play and especially play with poetry to invite young people in Oakland in as not research "upon" but as "co-researchers). It felt like an experiment, an experiment that worked! When I moved to Atlanta for my post-doc, I still thought that this play was a fluke. A dear poetry comrade reminded me that this was indeed MY praxis and pedagogy. So, I kept doing it and expanding and evolving it. I haven't had any pushback from mentors or supervisors, thankfully. But even if I did, I would push on back, too!</div><div><br></div><div>I definitely encourage play as a teacher and mentor. Grad students are soooo stressed nowadays, even moreso than we were. They've inspired me to make space in my classes, curriculum, office, etc. to facilitate play. I created a whole course called "Centering Wellness," which is really a practice, not just a class, focused on public health students reading poetry, memoir, and fiction, and creating collages, songs, poems, etc. Some students are hesitant, because if they've been on a pre-med, pre-health careers track, at times the play and the personal has been forced out of them. But for the most part, students come to like this remembering, this letting go, this imagining.</div><div>I also facilitate meditation sessions right before finals for all of our grad students, and even staff have started to come. I encourage students to take breaks, to have fun, to build community. I see students as my co-learners, but I recognize that this is a disruptive praxis in academia. Bi-directional mentoring is disruptive to the hegemony. Play is disruptive. Well then, I'm a disruptor. </div><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><b style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">LeConté J. Dill, DrPH, MPH<br></b><b style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px">Director of Public Health Practice</b></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><b style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">Clinical Associate Professor,</b></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><b style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">Department of Social and Behavioral Sciences</b></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(33,33,33)"><b>College of Global Public Health</b></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(33,33,33)"><b>New York University</b></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(33,33,33)"><b>665 Broadway, 11th Floor</b></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(33,33,33)"><b>New York, NY 10012<br></b><b></b></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(33,33,33)"><b>Email: <a href="mailto:ljd9@nyu.edu" target="_blank">ljd9@nyu.edu</a></b></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(33,33,33)"><b>Phone: (212) 992-6087</b></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font color="#212121" face="Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14.6667px"><b><a href="https://publichealth.nyu.edu/faculty/leconte-dill" target="_blank">https://publichealth.nyu.edu/faculty/leconte-dill</a> </b></span></font><br></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 6:13 PM Margaret Rhee <<a href="mailto:mrheeloy@gmail.com">mrheeloy@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif">Thank you LeConte and Craig, this is really beautiful, and truly a honor to engage with both of your work. </font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif">I've always been informed by both your work and presence, and grateful for hybrid scholars and artists in my life, who make things possible. </font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif">I feel so much that community is such an important part of not only activist practices, but poetic practice too. I really love this conversation</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif">and wish we </font><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">could be in IRL to talk about these things sometime soon. </span></div><div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif">I know Maria and Gabriela had some issues with the listserve access, and Ill forward their posts shortly. </font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif">Craig, I love how you articulate playing with space of the page, and <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">an "oceanic poetics" in "words as islands, sentences as archipelagoes, and the space as oceanic." It really teaches us to view the page and the poem in such different and meaningful ways. It's an important intervention, and seeing the page as a canvas, or map (remapping). It does remind me also of Maria's work with paper dresses, she paints on, and the deep attention to form, that is a decolonial intervention. </span></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></span></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" style="font-family:-webkit-standard">For your poetry, I've always been so moved by this play as a </font><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:-webkit-standard;font-size:medium">subversion</span><font color="#000000" style="font-family:-webkit-standard"> of the page and remapping of colonial maps. I'm excited to read further about the new Oceania and the history of colonization. </font><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></span></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></span></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><font color="#000000"><span>I also love thinking about the ocean. </span></font></font><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,sans-serif">It reminds me of the resonance with Kale's work on oceans and seafaring and Filipino migrants sailors. </span></div><div class="gmail_default"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="arial, sans-serif"><span>In terms of your work as a publisher, which I've admired greatly over the years, and our collaboration on Kundiman chapbook was such a special experience. It reminds me of how poets and cultural workers of color also support the publication and distribution of the poetry as well. Your</span></font><font face="arial, sans-serif"> work with Ala Press is so dynamic in how it intervenes in what we understand as arts and letters and how not only are you intervening as an artist, but also support other artists in a collective activism. </font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif">If you had a moment, I'd love to hear more about how this developed as your practice? Did you always see publishing and community work, as integral to the poetic intervention you make on the page? I'm always grateful to be in conversation. </font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif">I'm thinking now of LeConte's anthology publication of her work with Black youth in Oakland, and her many interventions with poetry, and participatory action research in public health. </font><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">It's beautiful to think of the voices of Black female ancestors and Black girls from the future in terms of your practice, and such a honor to engage. I love this how you discuss remapping LeConte and about the "narrative maps of Black girls’ and women’s journeys towards safe and healthy landing places" which resonates with Craig's work too. It's all deeply moving and an intervention of the poem and remapping of the page. </span></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif">It's fun and incredible that you are also deemed the "Play Priestess" (!!) </font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif">I had initially thought of your incredible poetry and community based research in public health, but it makes sense, and how to include play, and intervene in our fabric of life to enjoy and play in our creative and academic writing lives. </font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif">This play can and should extend into our lives and not only adherence to the structures of the institutions in which we reside. </font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif">I was fortunate to meet you in Cecil's workshop, and later with Cecil and Craig too. I'm wondering if you can talk more about experimentalism and the legacy of Black poetry and who has informed your work, and practice? </font><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Additionally, it's so exciting to learn about your teaching that has also crossed boundaries of health in the MFA and working with MPH students about poetry. </span></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif">I wonder if you were always able to find this hybrid practice, or did you experience any administrative hurdles in being able to teach across programs and approaches? It's an inspiring to think about and it is buoying to know that the students can learn from both MPH and MFA content. </font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif">I know that I also feel blessed in my department to teach artists about theory, and that there are not many places that also see the value of art. </font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif">I'm wondering if you both experience this when working with students? I guess I'm thinking of mentoring here after teaching. </font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif">Do your students (especially grad students) take on this practice (of play)? How do you teach this? I guess I think often of models, like both of your work and presence, which helped teach me these possibilities too. </font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif">Now in the role as a teacher, I'm often wondering how I help my students think in hybrid embodied ways. And the stakes for artists of color to create these spaces and roles not only for ourselves but for others. I would like to think I have students who also would want this practice and openness, and yet the structures often make it impossible. </font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, sans-serif">I'm also thinking about the role of collaboration in both of your work, and how is this part of your play, and practice? Thank you both again for your interventions, and all that you do. </font></div></div></div></div></div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><font face="arial, sans-serif">On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 12:30 AM LeConte J Dill <<a href="mailto:ljd9@nyu.edu" target="_blank">ljd9@nyu.edu</a>> wrote:<br></font></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><font face="arial, sans-serif">Thank you for the invitation to join in on this discussion, Margaret!!</font><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">And thanks for kicking things off, Craig.</font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">My poetry is inspired by the voices of Black female ancestors, Black girls and women that are known and unknown to me, and Black girls from the future. In my poetry, I've come to realize that I'm creating narrative maps of Black girls’ and women’s journeys towards safe and healthy landing places. </font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">Some of my poetry teachers and mentors have encouraged me to dance more and play more in my writing and on the page (and stage). One of my comrades recently donned me the "Play Priestess"--I encourage selfcare and squadcare, naps, breaks, beach time, dancing, and joyfulness in life, in general, and also in my creative and "academic" writing.</font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">One way that I've played is by merging my identities, knowledges, and practices as both a poet and a public health professor. For most of my life, I kept these "crafts" separate. When I started my doctoral program, I knew that I had to bring them together for my own sanity because I'm only one person afterall. Almost a decade ago, Margaret witnessed me attempting this playing in C.S. Giscombe's poetry class at Berkeley. Health-inspired poetry...poetry-inspired health research...Both/And. So you might find me teaching MFA students about the themes of chronic and infectious disease, social support, and healing in Sonia Sanchez's "Does Your House Have Lions?," or asking MPH students to write an "I Come From" poem for first-day-of-class introductions (and to not begin their poem with "I'm not a poet"). This playing always engages me with young people, folks of color, people who have filled countless journals but don't call themselves "writers," and folks who name writing as one of their coping mechanisms. <br>Special shout-out to my #weareallpoets squad in Jo'burg who showed me how to play with our words all the way in the Motherland: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__weareallpoets2015.wordpress.com_&d=DwMFaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=7orC5lGIdGAnr6U_9qaZ1w&m=5kB4dPfoAASCpmcz1IEzEhbsHKqM5RWmL8QKfafJbyE&s=KQ0X_Ygv2mknqIk2TuPeOyhTXLssWmiNo3UGk2x2sfc&e=" target="_blank">https://weareallpoets2015.wordpress.com/</a></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">Take care,</font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">LeConte</font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><b style="color:rgb(33,33,33)">LeConté J. Dill, DrPH, MPH<br></b><b style="color:rgb(33,33,33)">Director of Public Health Practice</b></font></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><b style="color:rgb(33,33,33)"><font face="arial, sans-serif">Clinical Associate Professor,</font></b></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><b style="color:rgb(33,33,33)"><font face="arial, sans-serif">Department of Social and Behavioral Sciences</font></b></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;color:rgb(33,33,33)"><b><font face="arial, sans-serif">College of Global Public Health</font></b></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;color:rgb(33,33,33)"><b><font face="arial, sans-serif">New York University</font></b></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;color:rgb(33,33,33)"><b><font face="arial, sans-serif">665 Broadway, 11th Floor</font></b></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;color:rgb(33,33,33)"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><b>New York, NY 10012<br></b><b></b></font></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;color:rgb(33,33,33)"><b><font face="arial, sans-serif">Email: <a href="mailto:ljd9@nyu.edu" target="_blank">ljd9@nyu.edu</a></font></b></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;color:rgb(33,33,33)"><b><font face="arial, sans-serif">Phone: (212) 992-6087</font></b></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><font color="#212121"><b><a href="https://publichealth.nyu.edu/faculty/leconte-dill" target="_blank">https://publichealth.nyu.edu/faculty/leconte-dill</a> </b></font><br></font></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div></div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><font face="arial, sans-serif">On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 12:09 AM Craig Perez <<a href="mailto:csperez@hawaii.edu" target="_blank">csperez@hawaii.edu</a>> wrote:<br></font></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font face="arial, sans-serif">----------empyre- soft-skinned space----------------------</font><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><font face="arial, sans-serif">Thanks so much, Margaret! </font><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">Yes, playing with the space of the page is an important part of my poetry. Iʻve written before about articulating an "oceanic poetics" in which I see words as islands, sentences as archipelagoes, and the space as oceanic with rhythmic currents and unseen depths of meaning. I write more about this here: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.academia.edu_30082881_-5FOn-5FWriting-5Ffrom-5Fthe-5FNew-5FOceania-5FThe-5FOttawa-5FPoetry-5FNewsletter-5F2016-5F&d=DwMFaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=7orC5lGIdGAnr6U_9qaZ1w&m=n3YxeShUWhYEzynfSGtjN4Ejwq5LcF3yuOaKzIt04Lk&s=syO_oPYgWZHgiupvSQ9OchcSozLh83MYX7OUcz41xC0&e=" target="_blank">https://www.academia.edu/30082881/_On_Writing_from_the_New_Oceania_The_Ottawa_Poetry_Newsletter_2016_</a>.</font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">I also think about the page as a kind of mapping. In the Pacific, as elsewhere, there's a long history of colonial mappings that reduce our islands & ocean to territorialized spaces. So in my work I try to play (subvert, re-imagine, de-territorialize) colonial maps. </font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">Yes, I also work as an editor & publisher. I have co-edited four anthologies of Pacific islander literature and I co-founded Ala Press, the only press in the US dedicated to Pacific literature (we have published around 10 books thus far). It's nice to think of this labor as creating a space (anthology or collection) for other voices to gather and inter-play. For those interested, here is the press: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.alapress.org&d=DwMFaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=7orC5lGIdGAnr6U_9qaZ1w&m=n3YxeShUWhYEzynfSGtjN4Ejwq5LcF3yuOaKzIt04Lk&s=1kpdtti3ri_b5KQVYQGXZIK2anBTnmxJ2mdCZesVhJU&e=" target="_blank">www.alapress.org</a> and here is one anthology that I co-edited that just came out this year: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.amazon.com_Effigies-2DAllison-2DAdelle-2DHedge-2DCoke_dp_1784631833_&d=DwMFaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=7orC5lGIdGAnr6U_9qaZ1w&m=n3YxeShUWhYEzynfSGtjN4Ejwq5LcF3yuOaKzIt04Lk&s=31-FHHdUKdLFKyxvl2av9zwTDZFQldh63p7r_73A_yg&e=" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Effigies-Allison-Adelle-Hedge-Coke/dp/1784631833/</a>. </font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">Cheers,</font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">Craig</font></div></div></div></div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><font face="arial, sans-serif">On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 6:12 AM Margaret Rhee <<a href="mailto:mrheeloy@gmail.com" target="_blank">mrheeloy@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></font></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">Thank you Craig for your message, and for participating. Such a honor to engage with your work and continue the thread on poetry, activism, and decolonial play. I've always been moved by your collaborative work across mediums such as poem-videos and visual art, and your work on the page in your collections too. I've inserted an excerpt from your first collection from unincorporated territory [hatcha] that to me, exemplifies the play on the page, that is all at once decolonial and experimental in terms of the visual. </font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">It's incredible to think of land, the ocean, and the poem in this way. It certainly reminds me of Maria's play with poetry and of Jerry's work on environments too. I wonder if you can speak more to your work in the visual and when thinking about oceans, land, environments, and poetics? </font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">I've also been moved in your collaborations as a publisher of Pacific and POC poetry in your practice. I wonder if you can speak more to this work of fostering Pacific poetry, and social justice movements through poetry readings and publishing as an activist practice? Always moved by your interventions, and excited to hear from others for this week. </font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">warmly, </font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">Margaret </font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">--- </font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">"The Page Transformed" Interview with Craig Santos Perez: </font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.lanternreview.com_blog_2010_03_12_the-2Dpage-2Dtransformed-2Da-2Dconversation-2Dwith-2Dcraig-2Dsantos-2Dperez_&d=DwMFaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=7orC5lGIdGAnr6U_9qaZ1w&m=n3YxeShUWhYEzynfSGtjN4Ejwq5LcF3yuOaKzIt04Lk&s=02UIJauJAxTRdfUM_k_wQZawkBOffqyAwW7U9U94trw&e=" target="_blank">http://www.lanternreview.com/blog/2010/03/12/the-page-transformed-a-conversation-with-craig-santos-perez/</a><br></font></div><div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><img src="cid:ii_k23gz9840" alt="image.png" width="507" height="507"><br></font></div></div></div></div></div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><font face="arial, sans-serif">On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 12:36 PM Craig Perez <<a href="mailto:csperez@hawaii.edu" target="_blank">csperez@hawaii.edu</a>> wrote:<br></font></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font face="arial, sans-serif">----------empyre- soft-skinned space----------------------</font><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><font face="arial, sans-serif">Hafa adai and Aloha! </font><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">Thanks, Margaret, for the invitation to join this exciting discussion. </font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">My poetry focuses on my home island of Guahan (Guam), my current home of Hawaiʻi, and the larger Pacific and our diasporas. Thematically, I address issues of decolonization, demilitarization, environmental justice, food sovereignty, political self-determination, and migration. Four of my books have been published thus far, with my fifth forthcoming next year (you can see my books here at my website: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.craigsantosperez.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=7orC5lGIdGAnr6U_9qaZ1w&m=n3YxeShUWhYEzynfSGtjN4Ejwq5LcF3yuOaKzIt04Lk&s=3gU3S9tccCpTBj6pKAWLoMO85dKmfvWg2pOubavMNsk&e=" target="_blank">www.craigsantosperez.com</a>). When I think about "play" in my work, I think about my use of playful techniques/aesthetics, including collage, polyphony, satire, humor, gossip, the carnivalesque, and metanarratives. </font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">I enjoy thinking of collaboration as a kind of inter-play. The two main collaborations I have done have been with Hawaiian artists/writers. One art installation called "defence" can be found here: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__craigsantosperez.com_defence_&d=DwMFaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=7orC5lGIdGAnr6U_9qaZ1w&m=n3YxeShUWhYEzynfSGtjN4Ejwq5LcF3yuOaKzIt04Lk&s=U2vVLlez_DumNG_xXVtFUrPtmV0K4umN1fnHxBbmQwA&e=" target="_blank">http://craigsantosperez.com/defence/</a>. A poem-video, called "praise song for oceania" can be found here: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__craigsantosperez.com_praise-2Dsong-2Doceania_&d=DwMFaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=7orC5lGIdGAnr6U_9qaZ1w&m=n3YxeShUWhYEzynfSGtjN4Ejwq5LcF3yuOaKzIt04Lk&s=SU17xJlzU25bs_N-Cz1ftgYvcHHNd5J4ICWmRbrdbWw&e=" target="_blank">http://craigsantosperez.com/praise-song-oceania/</a>. </font></div><div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">Lastly, I have found that creating a space of creative play at activist events have been very fruitful. I have organized many poetry writing spaces and creative writing workshops at different kinds of protest marches, activist festivals, cultural events, and more for people to express themselves. I have also hosted poetry reading and open mics at activist events, teach-ins, etc. I believe making these kinds spaces are vital for social justice movements to keep things playful (engaging, fun, pleasurable, expressive, creative, etc). </font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">I look forward to learning from everyone one. </font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">Cheers,</font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">Craig</font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><font face="arial, sans-serif">-- <br></font><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><font face="arial, sans-serif">Dr. Craig Santos Perez</font></div><div dir="ltr"><font face="arial, sans-serif">Interim Director of Creative Writing<br></font><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">Associate Professor, English Department<br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">Affiliate Faculty, Center for Pacific Islands Studies </font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">& The Indigenous Politics Program</font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">University of Hawai'i, Mānoa</font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><font face="arial, sans-serif">
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