<div dir="ltr"><div>Hello,</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for your questions Dan! Nice to see your interpretation of TRZ. <span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span>I respond from my side (inviting Cristina to continue the thread:))</span></span></span>:<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 at 05:54, Daniel Lichtman <<a href="mailto:danielp73@gmail.com">danielp73@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Dear Cristina and Angeliki,<div><br></div><div>Thank you so much again for sharing Temporary Riparian Zone with the empyre community! Here is the link to the TRZ project page: <a href="http://accumulations.online/trz.html" target="_blank">http://accumulations.online/trz.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>I've just been listening to some of the recordings in the bottom half of the Temporary Riparian Zone interface, which is embedded on the Accumulations page. I find it thrilling (to be blunt!) to trace the connections between these recordings, streamed among the group of geographically remote workshop participants. The meandering connections between these audio fragments link, however abstractly, the diversity of cultural, political and environmental contexts in which each participant made their contribution, not to mention each participants' creative interests and mood at the particular moment of recording.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><span style="color:rgb(153,0,255)"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><i>Thanks for highlighting the temporal, geographical, political and cultural dimensions. Even though the workshop lasted for only 3 hours it was enough time to be lost in meandering and listening/reading each other, grasping fragments of our contexts and our selves. For us it was an experiment and I didn't realize, until we did it, how these contexts intervened into the process (in matter of internet connection, time zones, familiarity with online streaming, sounds from our environments, different browsers experience etc). </i></span><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>This reminds me of the way several parts of the View Recent Changes project (<a href="http://accumulations.online/recentchanges.html" target="_blank">http://accumulations.online/recentchanges.html</a>), presented earlier this month, associated groups of images, text fragments, graphics and categories of information with one another -- sometimes by large numbers of participants contributing fragments of narrative or poetry, sometimes by machine intelligence and sometimes by other, distributed means. It also reminds me of Agustina Woodgate, Stephanie Sherman and Hernan Woodgate's project RadioEE (<a href="https://radioee.net" target="_blank">https://radioee.net</a>), which was also presented at Hackers and Designers 2020. Radio EE is a nomadic radio station that presents 24 hour long audio broadcasts from locations around the world. For each project, networks of local cultural producers contribute content using a variety of analog and digital streaming technologies, which is then broadcast to an international listening community. </div></div></div></blockquote><div><span style="color:rgb(166,77,121)"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><i>I am very interested in the these dimensions that you've mentioned and also RadioEE is dealing with. I have been following their amazing work and indeed TRZ has some similarities that I would love to explore further. I have participated in one of the RadioEE 24h streams called Wireless (<a href="https://radioee.net/event/wireless/">https://radioee.net/event/wireless/</a>) as part of Varia together with Fanfare, and jajajanenene (collectives in Rotterdam and Amsterdam) and it was so exciting to experience this simultaneity, at the same time delay and non-concurrency, of analogous and digital media, multiple ports, multiple cities and time zones. In both cases streaming becomes a manifestation of the geographical, cultural and political structures depending on: where does broadcasting happen, where is the server located, who is connected with whom, where are the clients (computers connected with the server), do broadcasters/listeners use VPN, who has control, what is the legal situation on streaming and internet for each country, what is the situation and mood of the participant/guest and other factors. <br></i></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><i><br></i></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><i>View Recent Changes embraces the fragmentation of human, animal, machinic, digital reality very nicely. Also it shows poetically that relations between these realities can be incomplete. I find interesting the temporal difference between this project and TRZ. The first has this accumulation of material in a wiki platform which can be an archival space and different editors can add/edit gradually, in a long period of time, through writing. And the latter was made to be live and short in time. But somehow because of writing in the pad and documenting the recordings from workshops in the interface it shares similar ways of accumulating fragments of thoughts and relations. </i></span> <br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>Each of these projects create an interface for connecting and associating disparate elements together into an (at least sort of) cohesive narrative, though not one authored by any individual. </div><div><br></div><div>Can you guys tell us a little bit about the process of participants streaming to one another? How did discussion on Etherpad lead to this group of recordings? And, most interesting to me, how were the connections traced between recordings, so nicely presented in graphic form on the interface?</div></div></div></blockquote><div> </div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><i>We had a moment of introducing ourselves in couples by listening to each other when the writing in the Etherpad and the set up of butt (stream client) was over. Each of us was listening to the stream of another person and introducing ourselves in turns. It was the first time that we would hear the voice and the sounds of the room of somebody else. The delay was a fun part and sometimes in order to know when it is time to talk we were communicating in the pad. Then we prepared recordings that streamed live through our mount points to the rest, by using narratives from the texts we wrote combined with sounds we created on spot. <br></i></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><i><br></i></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><i>I am not sure if I understand correctly your question about the connections traced between the recordings but something that comes in my mind is that as we were using one computer mostly, the input and output was in the same source. So sometimes if I would listen to one stream and recording/streaming simultaneously my sounds then my recording would have fragments of the recording of others. I find this restriction fascinating cause it makes us aware of audio 'events' in the computer and our involvement in them. Then somehow the one audio was included in the other. </i></span><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>Feel free to respond to any / all parts of this email!</div><div><br></div><div>Looking forward.</div><div><br></div><div>Dan</div></div></div>
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