Re: [-empyre-] [-empyre-]:An Avatar Manifesto::final

[Cristiano Bianchi <cristianobianchi@yahoo.com>]

Thanks! It makes sense now.
Cristiano

 --- Alan Sondheim <sondheim@panix.com> wrote: > 
> On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, [iso-8859-1] Cristiano Bianchi
> wrote:
> 
> >  --- Alan Sondheim <sondheim@panix.com> wrote: >
> > >
> > > Weird this avatar; it reminds me of the
> arguments
> > > about quota (I was on
> > > the quota review board) at the post-modern moo
> at
> > > one point. Both quota
> > > and avatar are thing/ness - disk-space,
> > > software-thing, i.e. @create
> > > $thing called xyz - etc. - why _this_ instead of
> > > process, dissemination,
> > > release -
> 
> When you're on a MOO, you're given, as a programmer,
> a certain amount of
> quota - disk space - say 100k - to use for your
> projects. Since the disk
> is finite, people compete for quota; among other
> things, it politicizes
> the MOO. @create $thing called - is a command for
> constructing an object
> on the MOO. I'm objecting to the objecthood of
> avatars as signifier of the
> future - instead arguing for a
> process/dissemination/release (into the
> void) approach -
> 
> > >
> > > think of _spam_ for example as spew - ephemeral,
> > > network-dependent, a
> > > flooding or unfolding - exfoliation - then
> > > collapse/disappearance -
> > >
> spam lasts a short time until deleted - it only
> exists momentarily within
> the network - it floods, unfolds, then disappears
> 
> > > in other words, this seems bound to the ontology
> of
> > > objects - again I'm
> > > thinking of tearing-away - breaking down the
> fabric
> > > of one's (local,
> > > fragile) online presence -
> 
> in other words, the notion of avatar discussed here
> is that of an
> "object," software or otherwise; I'm personally more
> concerned with the
> flight of objects, with a tearing-away of the
> singularity - which
> parallels in a way Lacan's deconstruction of the
> self -
> 
> so that we might think about our 'presence' online
> without these objects -
> spam was the example -
> 
> > >
> > > would seem to me that manifesto wd. go there -
> into
> > > others - as in wave-
> > > phenomena vs. particle -
> > >
> thinking about the dual nature of light - where
> 'particle' is much more of
> the usual (aristotelian) notion of entity - I'm
> arguing for the wave as
> the other direction - Alan
> 
> 
> > > alan
> > >
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> > >
> >
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