Re: [-empyre-] aesthetics of failure



At 16:26 -0700 19/08/03, Glenn Bach wrote:
Hi, empyre. I'm slammed at work right now, so the best I can do is pose a few questions . . . So, here are two:

1. We've already talked a little bit about technology and art, but perhaps we can go into the idea of failure, of pushing technology past its limits and using the resulting cracks, stutters, and fissures as raw material for new work. I'm thinking here of Cascone's essay on the aesthetics of failure, among others: http://www.mediamatic.net/cwolk/view/8470.

How is this being used beyond simple technique? In other words, is work being made that addresses the idea of failure as structure, strategy, etc.?



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hi emyreans

followed the thread but am quite surprised this failure concerns mostly a question of taste (does this sound please my ears) and of "ready to use" sound effects or software effects (ephemeral trends)
Aesthetics of noise (and what can we qualify as noise ?) aren't new


In some way one could say let's create ugly plug-ins for photoshop so that we make ugly digi pics (that don't need any ugly ps plug-ins btw).


seems to me that a large body of artists questionned the 'know-how' (savoir-faire) in C20 and that the failure issue should deal with it
but it's my opinion


i would also recommend part of robert filliou's work about this and some of his fluxus associated colleagues
but i guess you know the man


and maybe my understanding of the term 'failure' is not accurate


best

jean-philippe halgand / pavu.com

and in the meantime

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