Re: [-empyre-] mbodiment

["][mez][" <netwurker@hotkey.net.au>]

At 02:11 PM 1/05/2003 -0600, you wrote:

> Embodiment -- seems still to be totally bound to a materialistic view of 
> the world -- as are much of the commentary so far.  A much more accurate 
> tool for mapping is to move beyond Newtonian/materialistic/mechanistic 
> ways of modeling the noumenal would (including our selves) and apply some 
> Quantum/Taoist & other models (for brevities sake, although this issue 
> does take LONG dialogue to get to the principles of, more than can be 
> allowed here, and is NOT bound to those particular modeling systems, just 
> using them as possible starting points)...



x.cellent. john. [chpt N]re[versal]moval of cartesian conditioning is a 
tuff call.
[read: is n.demically underwritten].


> If one takes a reduced interpretation of Quantum and looks at touch, for 
> example, touch becomes the energized interaction between two states of a 
> universal energy field.  the two 'objects' coming into (cartesian) contact 
> merely expressions of that universal field in different energized conditions...

tactility/somaesthesia echoing here..energy many.festing states of 
consciousness?


> Much further along this line, an art 'object' is (nothing more than ) a 
> difference in energy 'condition' (language is woefully short, as is 
> contemporary mathematics to accurately model this energized universe).

is it possible 2 re.load in formulaic terms?

> From this point of view, taking my embodied energy state (I am a being of 
> energy), I use energy to transform, change the states of regions around 
> me (impossible to get away from Cartesian language!), and allow those 
> changed regions re-radiate to the Other, to be received as 'inspiration' 
> (or not).

echos of quasi-_Matrix_ized-snatched rhetoric here [Neo as able 2 change 
the actual parameters|structure of the matrix]

[i.am.simulacra-filtered. 4give me 4 ah.llusionary drawlings.]

> The actual mediated 'form' (a now-defunct word in this system) is, 
> literally, immaterial. Whether I use a painting or 20000 km of cable, 
> mouse, screen, processor, and keyboard (AND electric energy).  The crux is 
> how I gather my energy together, focus it in attentive and concentrated 
> measure to leap the abyss from the Self to the Other with that 
> energy.  NOT the materialist form, that is an obsolete way to model the 
> exchange!

<flagging term> .obsolete.

....wood luv u 2 unpack further the current|contemp state yr advocating.......

> Okay, three paragraphs, not enough time to go into details.  I usually 
> take a week in my workshops to get over Newtonian worldviews which have 
> gotten us into the HUGE f*%#^king mess we are in these days, and move on 
> to idiosyncratic and ultimately individual world views that validate each 
> persons sensual experience in the world, and free people from the onerous 
> burden of having to justify the uniqueness of their vision to a largely 
> hostile socio-cultural matrix...

:)

> Strangely enough, from this 'energy' based worldview, language is placed 
> squarely into a space of being just a socialized abstraction for trading 
> models between self and other.


sapir-whorfian hypothesis taken 2 its febrile [non-c] x.treme?


> Language is not an actual carrier of the energy (as voice and expiration 
> and vibrating vocal cords ARE, the actual language is NOT)...  Language 
> has nothing to do with that which is described (the map is not the 
> territory).

ah no. the reverse then?

> Or at least there is a final and complete gap between what any model 
> system seeks to describe/circumscribe and the sensual, energized 
> experience or presence itself...  we can dance around the Void with all 
> our models, but it still comes down to the impossibility of re-creating or 
> re-presenting lived presence and be-ing...
>
> Have I dug a deep enough hole for meself?


heh.
if so, then:
i'm.self_thrashing.2.

[mark: a logic.ley.line in the technosphere
mark: an N.titty d.void of cartesian stratum]

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