RE: [-empyre-] some introduction ::

[Alan Sondheim <sondheim@panix.com>]

Only want to add that all of this is what keeps me in video - in which the
spectator is often locked into the development of another world; it's a
chance to present inextricably complicated themes as experience.

As far as advanced tools go, who knows? There are times I've been working
with what turns out 'ahead of its time,' and times when I'm hopelessly
backwards. One works with whatever is around. I'm using Blender Publisher
now which is quite recent, and trying to study a bit of Turbo Pascal,
which is ancient...

Alan


On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, Jim Andrews wrote:

> > I use Director since 93, but am not able to make simulation, or generative
> > pieces
> > perhaps I could learn it, but would do it only when I need some
> > what personally interests me, is to be able to juggle with several
> > materials: images, animations, video, texts, sounds... for interactive or
> > linear pieces, according to the needs for work to realize
> >
> > somebody said that ((in art?) it is necessary to be  a little in advance
> > over its time, but not too much
> > when one is too much in advance, not enough people can
> > understand, and so is
> > interested
> >
> >
> > tamara
>
> Hi Tamara,
>
> I was just looking at your work at http://tellamouse.be.tf . What I have
> experienced so far is wonderful! I look forward to checking it out more
> fully over the month and reading your posts on empyre.
>
> About timing, I think I first heard the quote you mention concerning the
> object-oriented language Smalltalk. It was one of (if not *the*) first fully
> object-oriented languages. I was used to Pascal at the time (about 1991 or
> so). Pascal was not object-oriented and solely command-line input/output. No
> windowing, etc. Smalltalk was pretty incomprehensible to me at the time. It
> was obviously deluxe as a programming environment, but I didn't understand
> the OOP paradigm nor event-driven programming. Smalltalk didn't thrive as a
> business (because it was too far ahead of its time), but it gave rise to
> other implementations of object-oriented programming later on which did.
> Actually, I remember reading an interview with John Henry Thompson, the
> Afro-American inventor of Lingo, in which he named Smalltalk as one of the
> inspirations for Lingo. As Manik said recently on Rhizome, "Chain of social
> facts nominate "art".". Object-oriented programming was certainly nominated
> by a chain of needs.
>
> We are able to pursue our joy while we may and let the chips fall where they
> will, and enjoy our life and minds and health while we have them, make the
> most of the present rather than living for a future that doesn't exist yet.
> Even so, there is a sense in which the sort of work you do travels both via
> the data storms that flow across the globe and through dislocations of
> expectation. And through poetry, media, and arts.
>
> I admire your passion in "juggling several materials" and am happy to
> encounter your work!
>
> ja
>
>
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