Re: [-empyre-] disrupting the right-right

["Boat People" <io@boat-people.org>]

to pick up some of sam's mysterious threads...

> does this mean that 'public opinion' has no impact? 

I don't know. Maybe the coming elections here, in the US and the 
UK will be the reverb of those marches. But what do you reckon?

> john howard has gotten away with a lot of lies. no one seems to 
really care. 

erm, which no-one was that? even mainstream media like the 
sydney morning herald has been relentless in its pursuit of govt 
over children overboard, flint, torture in iraq- really unswayably 
fierce about it, as has david marr. boat-people's current little work 
is about this also. We don't, but many of these journos might have 
mortgages & private school fees to pay. and they will not shut up.
i guess they're not the people or institutions you're talking about 
though- but who is?

but to respond to maybe your broader point, (which i might be 
mishearing) true, none of this has seemed to touch the apparently 
impermeable bald-faced lying of our government, and nor are 
there equivalent screaming headlines about it in the murdoch 
media, or even just us haunting howard in pinocchio masks, (or 
something less lame).  it's like a fog of indifference... i wish i could 
point to some brilliant idea that has truly addressed this but maybe 
i need to study more history, talk to more old people.


> can prime ministers be impeached?

i don't think so, i think the queen has to sack them. or something.
> 
> what about the cash for comments and david flint, etc... where's 
the follow 
> up? why wasn't he sacked? 

he's gone.

> what about the letter of 'friendship' that a liberal minister sent to 
alan 
> jones via the wrong fax machine? why aren't the friendships and 
close association between big media influencers and politicians 
interrogated  further?
> 
this stuff is in the SMH, hassled shitless, every day. i know that's 
not a way to guage effect, i'm just saying it's very available info.


> where does the problem lie? is it with the media for being 
gutless and not  willing to follow through with investigations? is it 
with the institutions  for self-censoring themselves. there's 
mortgages and private school educations at risk i guess.
> 
> sometimes politicians need to make unpopular decisions also. 
how does that fit  in to unprecedented global protest? are the 
masses always right? 
> 
> rethink the problems. assume defeat if that helps to come up 
with new 
> answers... talk to old people... i think the problems are actually 
embedded 
> in our lifestyles. comfort has a lot to answer for! 
> 
> - sam :-)