[-empyre-] fwd .. gnu..

["Melinda Rackham" <melindar@acmi.net.au>]

re formatted from ruth catlow. ruth.catlow@furtherfield.org

I had the good fortune to attend a conference organised by Ian Forrester at
Ravensbourne College in Kent in the UK last week.
Copyright Vs Community - http://cubicgarden.com/copyright/

Here Richard Stahlman made it very clear why he always presses for GNU-Linux
to be called GNU-Linux. According to him, it is important to distinguish
between:
GNU - produced as part of the 'Free Software' movement who take a clear
ethical stance on the free production and distribution software for the
benefit of the community
and
Linux- produced under the 'Open Source' ethos, motivated by a pragmatic
interest in what can be achieved technologically but with no stated
commitment to keeping the software free.

I should probably have already known this but, the open source movement,
being more palateable to free-market politics is good at blurring the
boundaries.



Alan Sondheim wrote:

Stahlman has written eloquently on the development and use of the term.
Other than that, I'm not sure how you're using it.

are you referring to the use of the term "gnu media" or just "gnu" ?
if gnu media () i invite you to post the txt+link w/in liken
i am interested in stahlman's writings ++ it will create a path to this
discussion.

i threw gnu media in to the [lyrical/emmpyrical] [re/mixtape] to
generate a path to the openness of of the early community.



I was referencing 'gnu' - not 'gnu media' - but the term is really I think
Stahlman's - he insists for example on Gnu-Linux and so it gets
overdetermined - difficult to move elsewhere and for me a bit problematic
to do so - I have some of the O'Reilly books here on Peer to Peer, use GNU
Window apps a lot etc - alan


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Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 14:24:09 -0500
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_project

The original announcement [of the GNU project] was followed by
Stallman's "GNU Manifesto" and other essays that laid out his
motivations for the GNU project, one of which was to:
"bring back the cooperative spirit that prevailed in the
[computing/video/hardware.art] community in earlier days."


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jon.s
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On May 21, 2004, at 10:59 PM, Alan Sondheim wrote:


On Fri, 21 May 2004, jon.satrom wrote:


Alan Sondheim wrote:

Stahlman has written eloquently on the development and use of the
term.
Other than that, I'm not sure how you're using it.

are you referring to the use of the term "gnu media" or just "gnu" ?
if gnu media () i invite you to post the txt+link w/in liken
i am interested in stahlman's writings ++ it will create a path to
this
discussion.

i threw gnu media in to the [lyrical/emmpyrical] [re/mixtape] to
generate a path to the openness of of the early community.


I was referencing 'gnu' - not 'gnu media' - but the term is really I
think
Stahlman's - he insists for example on Gnu-Linux and so it gets
overdetermined - difficult to move elsewhere and for me a bit
problematic
to do so - I have some of the O'Reilly books here on Peer to Peer, use
GNU
Window apps a lot etc - alan
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