RE: [-empyre-] tangent: software / conceptual art



Yes, to think, as Florian does, that:

"{5: No computer can reprogram itself; self-programming is only possible
within a limited framework of game rules written by a human programmer. A
machine can behave differently than expected, because the rules didn't
foresee all situations they could create, but no machine can overwrite its
own rules by itself.}"

is a misunderstanding of the nature of computers and what they are capable
of. There is no proof, and there is very likely never to be any--popular
falacies from Penrose not withstanding--that the processes which computers
are capable of are any less flexible than thought itself. Were Florian's
statement true, it would demonstrate that there's a thought process
(self-modification) of which humans are capable and computers are not. But
it isn't so. It does seem that this sort of misunderstanding is widespread
and often fondly held.

It's my opinion that the new aesthetic emerging from interdisciplinary
collaborations (including the computational arts) will eventually undermine
and destroy the long outmoded beliefs of the current artworld status quo.
Somewhere, deep down (in their subconscious?) they know this and react
as humans always have done by rejecting the new, denying its credibility.
We only have to look at the Salon des Refuses for an example - one of the
Parisian critics actually spat at the works on show. He must have felt
they were a complete insult to everything he hled dear. Kuhn in the Structure of
Scientific Revolutions said that ..."disciplines change when old men die".
Thanks to the inherent conservatism of the arts and their lack of a logical
foundation and language revolutions here take a lot longer to come to term!
It was 100 years before the ideas expressed in the Salon des Refuses
entered British art education with the publication of the Coldstream
Report in (1963 I think).


But maybe this tangent is moving too far from the centre and we should
ask Mitchell to pull us back into line?




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