Well, first of all, I'm talking about my own approach which I
explained
in a previous post.
I don't understand. He hasn't really articulated an approach. Jeremy
is
asking if given a space to work with, what would interest you. Its
examination by humans that generates data. One could look at the
desert
and generate an absurd amount of data based on studies of insects,
geology, archeaology, petrolium exploration and so on.
This isn't very different than what I was saying. It's not just
examination by humans, it's also how humans or animals or whatever
interact with the location and that is what interests me personally.
What kind of narrative can be extracted from the way people interact
with a location? But, to tell the truth, the narrative doesn't really
matter to me at first. All I want is to make an audio/visual
representation of that interaction. The narrative is more of a
side-effect. You start to wonder what that person could possibly be
doing in that place at that time of day and then, in an attempt to
make
some sense of it all, you start to fill in the blanks and make up
stories about what might be going on. But as I say, this is all a
side-effect. I really just want to make a pretty picture.
On lau, 2004-09-18 at 13:22, knowlton@34n118w.net wrote:
I would have to say that this approach doesn't really work. The
location
doesn't generate data itself. It's static.
I don't understand. He hasn't really articulated an approach. Jeremy
is
asking if given a space to work with, what would interest you. Its
examination by humans that generates data. One could look at the
desert
and generate an absurd amount of data based on studies of insects,
geology, archeaology, petrolium exploration and so on.
In the city one could look at a specific street address (lat, long
coordinates) and examine zoning, power and water consumption, wifi
data
packets buzzing past, telephone usage and much more.
Although, there are stations
here in Iceland where they have stationary, high-precision GPS
receivers
that measure the movement of the tectonic plates, but that's not the
same thing. Dropping a GPS device in a vacant lot isn't going to
give
you any data unless someone picks it up and steals it. I would have
to
visit the location and see what's going on. Are there any people or
anything mobile that have some specific relation to the location?
One of our interests is time. It often gets lost because people
think of
location aware as mobility, movement in some sort of curent now. Yes
this
sort of work is tied to location, but we can also examine that
location
in
time.
In London Naomi, Jeremy and I stood outside a modern glass and steel
store
front bar, a few feet away stood an ancient Roman wall.
I could use my location aware goodies to stand in that court yard and
drill down past the glass and steel building and reconstruct the
brick
and
mortar building that used to occupy that location. Further back in
time
I
can reconstruct the Roman stone building that stood here.
If American's weren't so afraid of Terrorism and we had access to
blue
prints and maps of city infrastructure. We could expose the varius
layers
of water, sewer, electical, telecommunication, transportation and so
on
that under the streets of New York.
One could just as easily reverse the process and write a fictive
space
across the desert. Perhaps Borges Cartographers only made the map,
never
the city.
jeff
Perhaps a street cleaner or bike courier in the newly built city
center
or some animal in the stretch of desert. If the desert area is in
fact
the same length and width as the autobahn, maybe it would be
interesting
to use an animal in the desert and a truck driver on the autobahn
and
see how they harmonize.
Pall
On fös, 2004-09-17 at 17:24, hight@34n118w.net wrote:
If you see a city and you see data, how do you see the two in
juxtaposition or integration? If you were presented with either a
vacant
lot where a historical theater once stood, a stretch of nondescript
desert
in the same length and width as the autobahn, or a city center
newly
built, which would you choose to work with?
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