Re: [-empyre-] Matrixial Encounters

[eduardo@navasse.net]

Given that I am one of the invited guests this month.  I would suggest
to move the discussion to Raul and other invited guests.  We certainly
can keep discussing previous issues.

I  look forward to the propositions by Raul et. al.

Eduardo Navas

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [-empyre-] Matrixial Encounters
> From: hight@34n118w.net
> Date: Sat, April 16, 2005 6:33 pm
> To: sostrow@gate.cia.edu, "soft_skinned_space"
> <empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
> 
> > Yes.
> 
> The issue at hand is one that has been around through countless earlier
> new technologies, functionalities, gizmos, etc.
> 
> I have experienced this personally.  I helped create an early locative gps
> spatial narrative and sound project that got a lot of press in the art
> world first, then the business folks sniffed the utilitarian and
> commercial applications of what we created.  We went from being written
> about in wired and speaking on npr to getting emails about commerical
> ends.  This is inevitable with any tool that begins to hint at or clearly
> elucidates some new gizmo aspect of existing business paradigms.  We never
> intended that to be our goal at all, in fact we were coming at it from
> purely concept and avant garde angles.   We left it to others to go in the
> commercial direction ( essential a literalization and dumbing down of what
> we and a few others came to as art and  cultural commentary).
> 
>  I really think that fighting the inevitable is futile.  The thing to do
> is to search these new frontiers and galvanize behind  ways to push them
> in pure art and alternate culture jamming and dissent organizing
> methodologies and strategems.  We cannot argue and pick at fine points,
> signifiers, qouted reference points in the words of philosophy and
> previous analytical constructs while the need for action and unity in
> dissent and awareness grows at such a frightening rate.  A crucial
> discussion would be one of what technologies and functionalities we have
> now at hand, what we will have very soon, and what to do.
> 
> jeremy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Capitalist (bourgeois) relationships (those of ownership)  are now,  as
> > in the past a fetter on the development of the means of production --
> > within such a environment  "Hackers" no more make up a class in the
> > classical sense of that word then the militants  (from the luddites to
> > the Maoist) who in the name of various ideologies sought to combat
> > capital -- and in actuality by classic Marxist -Leninist terms they are
> > adventurist  because their actions are volunteristic -- directed by no
> > class vision and lacking ties to those classes in whose name they act
> > -- to identify this individualism and lack of discipline and the
> > resulting spontaneity as liminal is to romanticize the Hacker  who seem
> > to occupy no more than a petite bourgeois position as a facilitator who
> > has already been appropriated into the capital's research and
> > development dept.
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