Re: [-empyre-] Hi from Seoul.



Hi guys

Thanks for your disquisition. As for your quote on chance / surrealist / subconscious creation, it's Breton or Dali or Magritte. Might even be Duchamp. But we well know it's all complete tosh anyway as you said to someone else that you in fact painstakingly accord the text to the sound.

In a spirit of reconciliation, I want to suggest a new category: French/Korean. You obviously speak French so you surely could find a few fast-paced or mournful accordion ditties to accompany / lead (yes?) a tale of love and loss. My pleasure.

Now; I understand that you don't want to discuss your work in too much detail (or too seriously) because that would risk draining the life and poetry out of it. So let me offer the following theory: apart from the distinctive identity it helps create, and apart from speed / rhythm, the jazz you use nicely contrasts with, and complements, the flashing texts and symbols because it is organic, originally pre-digital, and also clearly from a different era, hence currently incapable of becoming outmoded as (say) a more contemporary electronic track might.

Mathieu


On 04/05/2005, at 11:46 AM, YOUNG-HAE CHANG HEAVY INDUSTRIES wrote:

Hi Mathieu,

Music is a funny thing. It can make everything seem different, better, more
emotional. It can change the mundane into the exceptional. It can make
something, a place and a person, become memorable if not unforgettable.


Background music, in a movie, a waiting room, or an elevator, adds an
element of complexity to what would otherwise be just a visual experience.
The moment we realized that the Web could be an audiovisual experience, we
couldn't figure out why anyone would skip the music. O.K., you'd skip it
because the file would be too heavy. For us, though, since we believe that
music is like a drug that makes everything better -- even art; O.K., maybe
some art is beyond redemption -- we were willing to sacrifice other minor
things, like images.


From your comments, it seems the music in our work has succeeded in a few of
these ways. It has made the text seem better. It has persuaded you that it
was really, thoughtfully coupled with the text. That's good, and we're
happy. Thanks for sharing this with us.


An on-the-spot survey of the 59 pieces/versions on our site shows that 44
songs are "Black American,", 10 are "Korean/American," and 5 are "White
American." Those numbers will, in the coming months, tip more toward
"Korean/American," since YHCHI has and will continue to make its own music.


For instance, here's one of our new pieces that we invite you to see/hear
for the first time online:


http://www.yhchang.com/SUPER_SMILE.html

We thank CACSA, in South Australia, and its director Alan Cruickshank for
inviting us to show the piece offline.


"How does the music we choose or make influence the ideas?" Well, first of
all, there aren't any ideas in our work -- at least not if we can help it.
O.K., a few slip in here and there, but we're trying our best to avoid them.
CUNNLINGUS is an exception -- but then, we didn't write that piece, the Dear
Leader did. We don't work with ideas. We're not smart enough to do that or
to think that our ideas can interest anyone. We work instead with a few
images that pop up in either of our heads, then we run with them, and in the
wrong direction, unless we make a mistake. Ideas in art are boring, from
what we've seen. Incoherence, confusion, wrongness, accident, stupidity --
especially stupidity -- these are the elements of our work. It's fun.


Who said "Beau, comme la rencontre fortuite sur une table de dissection
d'une machine à coudre et d'un parapluie"? "Beautiful, like the chance
encounter of a sewing machine and an umbrella on an operating table"?
Anyway, that pretty much sums up how we put together music and text.

What saves the patient from sure death is the same thing that saves a
painting: the frame, or, in our case, the digital frame, the browser window
and the computer screen. In both cases, the frame makes everything so
convincing.


As for http://www.yhchang.com/URGENT_REQUEST.html, well, we're a business.
We're trying, like a lot of people, to make money while we sleep. To make
our investment work for us. Etc.


Young-hae and Marc



On 5/3/05 5:41 PM, "Mathieu O'Neil" <oneil@homemail.com.au> wrote:

Hi

In a roundabout way, I was getting at the music, rhythm of your work. I
was wondering how you saw it in relation to the text - contrast,
background/foreground, distancing; also the specific pieces you use are
very "Western", black-american, ex-hipster forms. How do they relate to
being Korean, or in Korea? And how does a particular musical piece
influence the ideas expressed? (I'm assuming the music comes first, may
be wrong.)


Also: I went and had a look at your site and saw a piece I didn't know
- "Urgent Request" - which nicely satirizes the net spam scams - yet
poses the question of how net artists make a living... seems to be a
new positioning of your own economic situations?

Mathieu

ps. It's probably obvious but what the hey: I also find your work very
satisfying in many ways.

On 03/05/2005, at 1:37 PM, YOUNG-HAE CHANG HEAVY INDUSTRIES wrote:

Hi,

Seoul isn't interested in jazz -- unless you consider Kenny G as jazz.

For our money, Korean musical genius is in "pansori" and "pungtchak."
Their
sounds, unique and unmistakable, invite improvisation and soulfulness
on
famous standards such as "Arirang."

Young-hae and Marc

On 5/2/05 10:32 PM, "Mathieu O'Neil" <oneil@homemail.com.au> wrote:

Uh... jazz? What's the be-bop scene like in Seoul?
Cheers
M

On 02/05/2005, at 6:07 PM, YOUNG-HAE CHANG HEAVY INDUSTRIES wrote:

Thanks, Michael,

We're open to discuss anything with anybody -- oh, except for sex,
politics,
money, ourselves, Internet technology, critical theory, including the
global
versus the local trans-anything, post-everything, deconstruction,
nomadism,
gender, C, C++, Maya, claymation, GATS, intellectual copyrights, and
the
latest North Korean test missile. Shoot.


Young-hae and Marc






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