AW: [-empyre-] original form
would it be dangerous to say, that www.rentagerman.de has been
influenced by www.rentanegro.com ?
no, that´s not dangerous. 5 million unemployed german europeans cannot
fight against slaver<y.
art is not about being proud of the origin. art is about taking the risk
of reactions..
xj.blank
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Von: empyre-bounces@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au
[mailto:empyre-bounces@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au] Im Auftrag von David
Daniels
Gesendet: Samstag, 14. Mai 2005 17:04
An: soft_skinned_space
Betreff: Re: [-empyre-] original form
http://www.thegatesofparadise.com
Dear Young-hae and Marc,
> Would it be dangerous to say that YOUNG-HAE CHANG HEAVY INDUSTRIES has
> been
> influenced by The Gates of Paradise?
>
> http://www.yhchang.com/GATES_OF_HELL.html
No, that's not dangerous. In fact, it's flattering. Thank you.
And thank you for yelling LOUD CLEAR REAL.
Your Friend,
David
http://www.thegatesofparadise.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "YOUNG-HAE CHANG HEAVY INDUSTRIES" <tfa@chollian.net>
To: "soft_skinned_space" <empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 7:35 AM
Subject: Re: [-empyre-] original form
> Hi David,
>
> "Would it be dangerous to say that you might possibly be influenced by
> east
> asian brush written poems?"
>
> No, that's not dangerous. In fact, it's flattering. Thank you.
>
> Would it be dangerous to say that YOUNG-HAE CHANG HEAVY INDUSTRIES has
> been
> influenced by The Gates of Paradise?
>
> http://www.yhchang.com/GATES_OF_HELL.html
>
> Young-hae and Marc
>
> On 5/14/05 2:59 AM, "David Daniels" <owidnazo@thegatesofparadise.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> http://www.thegatesofparadise.com
>>
>> Dear Young-hae and Marc
>>
>> Would it be dangerous to say that you might possibly be influenced by
>> east
>> asian brush written poems?
>>
>> The words in your work jump out on the screen much like words in
>> Chinese
>> and
>> Korean and Japanese brush written poems jump out on the paper when
you
>> see/read them and one after the other they bang into kaleidoscopic
>> meanings -
>>
>> GONG GONG GONG GONG
>>
>> BIRDS CHIRP YING YING
>>
>> DEAR CHIRP YO YO
>>
>> LAST TIME I SAW TU FU
>>
>> WAS ON MOUNTAIN OF BOILED RICE
>>
>> BANG BANG BANG BANG
>>
>> Your friend,
>>
>> David Daniels
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.thegatesofparadise.com
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "YOUNG-HAE CHANG HEAVY INDUSTRIES" <tfa@chollian.net>
>> To: "soft_skinned_space" <empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
>> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 9:34 AM
>> Subject: Re: [-empyre-] original form
>>
>>
>>> Hi Russell,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the compliment. Sam Beckett was a good friend:
>>>
>>> http://www.yhchang.com/BECKETTS_BOUNCE.html
>>>
>>> "I'm sure you won't answer if you don't want to, but would you care
>>> to comment on literary influences?"
>>>
>>> Ever since we made
>>>
>>> http://www.yhchang.com/DAKOTA.html
>>>
>>> we have told anyone who will listen that the piece is based on a
>>> close reading of Ezra Pound's Canto I and first part of Canto II. To
>>> no avail. No one in literary criticism seems ready and willing to
>>> take a look at the other literary influences in our work. To us, the
>>> influences are pretty easy
>>> to spot -- and fun, or so we thought. But maybe fun isn't what
interests
>>> today's critical theorists. Maybe fun disqualifies us.
>>>
>>> No matter. We're happy to wait for that special someone to come
>>> along.
>>>
>>> Young-hae and Marc
>>>
>>> On 5/13/05 8:51 AM, "Russell Smith" <Russell.Smith@anu.edu.au>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, lots of love from me too.
>>>>
>>>> I was captivated by Young-hae and Marc's work the first time I came
>>>> across "The Struggle Continues" about a year ago. For me the
>>>> strength of the work
>>>> is above all in the writing: I always show this work to students
who
>>>> ask
>>>> me
>>>> who I think are the most interesting contemporary writers around.
And I
>>>> guess the other thing I like about it is it's not interactive in
any
>>>> dumb
>>>> 'new media' sense; if people can't stop fidgeting with their mouses
for
>>>> five minutes to take in a bit of art then I guess that's their
loss.
>>>>
>>>> With the pounding repetition, lyrical aggression, and general
>>>> hilariousness, the texts remind me above all of Thomas Bernhard and
>>>> Samuel Beckett (about the highest compliment I can make!).
>>>> Young-hae and Marc -
>>>> I'm sure you won't answer if you don't want to, but would you care
to
>>>> comment on literary influences?
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Russell Smith
>>>> --
>>>> At 04:09 PM 5/12/2005 +1000, you wrote:
>>>>> I experienced Young-hae and Marc's 'engaged work' as a form of
>>>>> dialogue,
>>>>> true communication (I am still contemplating that the basis of it
was
>>>>> possibly 'unconditional love'). The fact that it was art as well
was
>>>>> kind
>>>>> of secondary to me (although I was very much aware of it). I saw
it
>>>>> as
>>>>> a
>>>>> way to escape narrow-mindedness/stupidity/rigidness/etc. (mine own
as
>>>>> well
>>>>> as the one of 'other') through dialogue, exchange - you do need to
>>>>> kind
>>>>> of
>>>>> 'train' yourself in selflessness for that. I personally love
'true'
>>>>> 'stupidity', I see it as one of the basic elements of life - and
when
>>>>> it
>>>>> is put in relevant context it becomes really beautiful.
Therefore, my
>>>>> personal response to their work was related to the 'moment' in
time,
>>>>> or
>>>>> rather quite accidental on one level, but one could also argue
that
>>>>> all
>>>>> art (or awareness of art) is in a way an 'accidental event'.
>>>>>
>>>>> - and, yes, lots of love from me
>>>>>
>>>>> Victoria
>>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>> Lecturer in English
>>>> School of Humanities
>>>> AD Hope Building
>>>> The Australian National University
>>>> Canberra ACT 0200 AUSTRALIA
>>>>
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>>>>
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