[-empyre-] Re: 2 wr[b]yte : oulipo

[Christina McPhee <christina112@earthlink.net>]

hI Friedrich et al,


Good point.  Regarding oulipo,  from "an obscure and semi-derelict  
laboratory...in South London,  Paul Taylor
transmits this helpful guide:

<http://www.nous.org.uk/oulipo.html>

 Thanks also Friedrich for posting Florian's book, what a terrific  
resource.   He gave a short version of this in a presentation to some  
of us at the Lounge|lab project at Bauhaus-U. Weimar 2 years ago, and  
then disappeared (a bit like the White Rabbit in Alice).


Christina




On Oct 12, 2005, at 6:13 AM, Friedrich W. Block wrote:

> I am questioning every aggressive (and somehow neo-futuristic)  
> gesture of
> being "avant" or the non-dialectical, non-historical use of "new"  
> with the
> help of new technologies. ('new' as one of the most traditional  
> aesthetical
> values).
>
> When observing digital writing as an artistic practice, its  
> relation to the
> conventions of experimental writing can be seen more as continuation,
> extension, and development than as rupture. concrete and visual  
> poetry,
> oulipo, art&language, for example, have invented or developed  
> concepts and
> methods which seem to be crucial pretexts of digital poetics. and  
> this is in
> no way a devaluation of current developments, but a perspective  
> amongst
> others of qualifying them.
>
> Thus, I am not only interested in the new potentials of digital  
> writing but
> also in how they make use of older potentials, and also in  
> invariants of
> writing.
>
> you can trace back executable code even to very ancient forms of  
> writing as
> florian cramer has convincingly shown in his great essay on "words  
> made
> flesh", see
> http://pzwart.wdka.hro.nl/mdr/research/fcramer/wordsmadeflesh/
>
> best
>
> friedrich
>
>
>
> Am 11.10.2005 4:00 Uhr schrieb "empyre- 
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> <empyre-request@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au>:
>
>
> > Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 07:14:26 -0400
> > From: Bill Seaman <bseaman@risd.edu>
> > Subject: [-empyre-] 2 wr[b]yte
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> > [-empyre-] 2 wr[b]yte
> >
> >
> > > I believe that it is as grave a human error to believe that only
> > > what is new is good as it is to believe that only what is old is
> > > good. For an artist everything is good.
> > >
> > > What is bad is to be dead.
> > >
> > > Your Friend,
> > >
> > > David
> >
> >
> > I agree,
> >
> > I love all of the forms you have mentioned in your text. I personally
> > have a very very large collection of books which I love... The
> > questions we are dealing with ask the following: what are the new
> > potentials that get opened out by electronic writing? They do not
> > devalue the rich traditions of writing in any way. A novel has
> > particular characteristics, the computer enables another set.
> > b
>
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