I think that this thread has so far avoids the obvious - post-structualism (the engine that drove the post-Modern train) dis-constructed the subjects of not only of art but of the very possibility of a cultural identity -- if there was such a thing as a contemporary avant garde wouldn't some aspect of its practice be the construction of a viable subject - till now this thread continues to be premised on a residual modernist one in this sense if we lack the ability to construct our own ideal then modernity remains our (degraded) classical period upon which all else built _______________________________________________ empyre forum empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au http://www.subtle.net/empyre --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wanadoo vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus mail. Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte.