Any details more on the same idea/ Re: [-empyre-] misogyny

[Aliette <aliette@criticalsecret.org>]

Sorry, just adding precisely as materialist myself that of course the real
question of the power cannot be the one between men and women... My proper
remark on the question that I agree with Patrick when I suggest "false
stake",  something same than: what is obvious at the moment we reach the one
moment when it is not necessary to have a natural mode of reproduction of
human to be able in matter of reproduction as human, I said, the sexism
impact far from disappearing is all the contrary increasing, it appears.

But it seems at the view of HG feelings of powerlessness fear by men, that
the sexual violence may be would take place in the symbolic absence of
power. May be through the disappearance of the social pact of the
relationship of production while the society of the capitalist or socialist
production disappear (I mean more: having disappear the work itself as
resource and as common respective responsibility)? More this going with the
event of the disappearance of the symbolic political power of the people in
the post-democracies and post republics... Even the classes of the power
would have lost their political common culture being the tribute of the
former democracies or republics, don't you think so? At the moment they have
got a global supra government and institutions, they do not take care more
of the local traditions of the former nations as popular cultures but
populism?

Primal and regressive defences and request of power without limit from any
part to each other?  It is the war, the civil war globally and singularly?

May be yet the same question of American superpower to open its submitted
territory since the Pacific ocean to the Mediterranean Sea in the south of
China and Russia in a following continuous space without impeachment of
otherness?

If yes: we have to fear the social fear falsely installed by the power under
an ideological opportunist vision of the men as false tradition (but
perverse) from porn to war porn as killers fearing to be killed. Because it
is to show a possible global war from several ones.

And the conditioning comportments coming through the education more from the
games as always it happened.

But the question is not of the contents, nor or the forms of the social
life, nor of the games, it is of the society itself as wide of heritage and
creations of relationships of common production: but the war?

On 24/10/06 10:46, "Aliette" <aliette@criticalsecret.org> probably wrote:

> ( I apologize for the cross poting of the previous email, I believed to have
> badly written the address of the first one ).
> 
> If you mean that the very false stake socially and individually playing in
> sexual relationship of violence, symbolic but really acting, can be of the
> power; anyway I agree.
> 
> But that is not the former object of sexuality: reproduction and/or delight
> and ?may be?? love ( which would need all a discussion to be definite: so
> what is love? )
> More sometimes domination through the following affects.
> 
> And what first represents the power in this society?
> 
> What can we learn from the games ? as they are exactly??
> 
> 
> On 24/10/06 3:09, "patrick lichty" <voyd@voyd.com> probably wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Good point - 
>> A couple playful probes...
>> 
>> gh replies:
>> 
>> What happens with television and sensationalism is that it plays to
>> the limbic gland.
>> 
>> Hmmm.  Where is this 'Limbic Gland'... Maybe near my perineal
>> oblongatum?
>> 
>> 
>> Being powerless over women is a major fear of men. This is probably
>> amplified by those with larger ambitions, to whit the greater the
>> ambition, the greater the fear of powerlessness.
>> 
>> Oh, hell, GH- cut to the chase...
>> Men as a genre are afraid of losing power of any kind, PERIOD.  And the
>> more power they have, the more afraid they are to lose any of it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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