Re: [-empyre-] Re: empyre Digest, Vol 29, Issue 8

[Christiane Robbins <cpr@mindspring.com>]

Dear Alan,

I'm uncertain as to whether or not I entirely followed your meaning  
in this statement:

" To use the technology as entertainment doesn't negate the other  
uses, or do injustice to their injustices. In other words, does all  
art have to reflect its political-sociological- militarist-etc.  
origins?"

Would you mind expanding upon this a bit more - thanks -

Best,

Chris



On Apr 11, 2007, at 10:10 PM, Alan Sondheim wrote:

> A couple of things, and please forgive me for not following this  
> closely; I've been dealing with a lot of personal trauma. Anyway,  
> how do you fit Bruce Sterling's recent book into this (or don't you)?
>
> Second - I'm not sure I'd object to infotainment or entertainment,  
> etc. in relation to surveillance technologies; the Net itself was  
> developed as we know out of military contracts; television connects  
> to WWII radar technologies, and so forth. So at least for me  
> there's something proble- matic in not using something because of  
> genesis or other uses - or feeling the need to use something only  
> in relation or at least mentioning the relation to genesis or other  
> uses. To use the technology as entertainment doesn't negate the  
> other uses, or do injustice to their injustices. In other words,  
> does all art have to reflect its political-sociological- militarist- 
> etc. origins? It worries me when there's an implied 'should' in all  
> of this. But again I may be missing the point and will draw back  
> into lurk mode.
>
> - Alan
>
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