[-empyre-] Re: empyre Digest, Vol 29, Issue 12





It's interesting to me that the description holds also for Second Life which of course is somewhere 'between' the corporate and individual - see http://www.libsecondlife.org/wiki/Main_Page for example. There are interesting issues I gather in terms of virtual height - 'above' the canopy of the playsapce for example. If SL fails, something will take its place, sooner or later fully open-source I think - the result eventually will be a relatively stable online 'place' for cultural etc. exploration (not to mention the fact that companies and universities, governments and criminal organizations, are already moving in to SL).

- Alan


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Hi Alan -

RE: "...the Net itself was developed as we know out of military
contracts; television connects to WWII radar
technologies, and so forth.'

THEN"...does all art have to reflect its political-sociological-
militarist-etc. origins"

I guess not.

Probably the only person fairly happy with the Internet may be Tim
Berners-Lee - but is it creative enough yet?

Even though anyone can now participate, in the words of Edward J.
Barkmeyer at NIST today on Ontolog Forum (http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-
bin/wiki.pl, more scientific/semantic approaches) ".....no one is
responsible for much of it, we have no civil engineering discipline,
we have no land use planning, we have random patchworks of streets,
we are carrying the water on foot in buckets from the most convenient
well, we have no police force and no fire brigade, we have sewage
problems, crime problems and frequent plagues.  Some communities
thrive and some die out, and we don't really understand why.  And yet
people keep coming here, because there is education, and jobs, and
entertainment, and money to be made. Ultimately, technology enabled
us to get control of it, and fires and plagues forced us to."

THANK YOU for not lurking. This bull has got to be taken by its horns
for a number of purposes. It is not simply for kids to communicate
with all their friends at once or military applications. Internet
communications and modern forms of public record keeping has got to
be made sense of - and why not now, sooner, rather than later so we
don't miss all the first time exchanges going on.

The Internet will evolve itself but we should also steer it for many
of the reasons stated here in Empyre digest and others.

Debbie MacPherson



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