[-empyre-] personal tragedy + repetition + delay

[Verena Conley]

Nice comparison between a colonial hotel (built in 1905) and a Roman media
coliseum and thanks for the comments on replays and repetitions. Interesting
too how the terrorists hit a lot of non-places and how the symbol of the
colonial hotel has evolved. This is not to take anything away from the
terror of the situation and the suffering of innocent people.

Speaking of suffering, do go to "Pogrom, Gujarat, India, 2002." There is an
especially good article from the Guardian (March 2007). The numbers, facts
and horrific details are staggering. Also, the non-coverage at the time.
Verena

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 11:30 AM, <rtf9 at cornell.edu> wrote:

> Thanks to all for posting such interesting comments. The hotel facade
> in Mumbai did indeed become a Roman media coliseum where screens of
> violence, blasts, fire spectacularly hid from view the horror and
> terror of personal tragedy. While we watched immediate and
> instantaneous feeds which brought terror, blasts, and carnage
> directly to our television screens, the event unfolded in real time
> over three plus days.  Our American media critically asks why the
> incident did not end more quickly with an immediate military/ police
> intervention.  Instead help was delayed. Short bursts of actual
> footage, personal interviews and media commentary played repeatedly.
> The replays filling the three days of horror were especially
> displaced given the eight hour time difference where night and day
> became conflated via the television screen.
>
> Renate Ferro
>
> >>
> >>
> >>On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 5:05 PM, simon
> >><<mailto:swht at clear.net.nz>swht at clear.net.nz> wrote:
> >>
> >>Does this mean - the following - the following (too late), which my
> >>earlier post was an attempting to articulate: that capital encodes
> >>terror? makes use of it in its flows of symbolic exchange? as if having
> >>reached a critical velocity, the accident of history is given to
> >>returning endlessly?
> >>
> >>Or conversely has there been some sort of symbolic phase shift whereby
> >>the simulacrum, the coded world, that Image of
> >>thought-as-representation, now only runs by circulating, through the
> >>circulation of, acts/networked nodes of terrestrial and extraterrestrial
> >>terror? Is capital now entrained in the duration of terror? (As we are
> >>entrained in the durations of its spectacular technological means.)
> >>
> >>Simon Taylor
> >>
> >><http://www.squarewhiteworld.com>www.squarewhiteworld.com
> >><http://www.brazilcoffee.co.nz>www.brazilcoffee.co.nz
> >>
> >>
> >>Nicholas Ruiz III wrote:
> >>>  As a reflection of the transparency of evil (Baudrillard), the whole
> >>>  lot of it, Mumbai, etc.--is commerical art...and the millions of
> >>>  downloads, transmissions and commentaries are its market, paid for in
> >>>  broadcast fees, cable and satellite subscriptions and financed by
> >>>  advertisers: with media art critics and all!  We are enveloped by a
> >>>  postmodern Roman media coliseum, where gladiatorial urges are elicited
> >>>  and fulfilled, where spectators take part in the war games, which are
> >>>  repeated endlessly and archived for posterity on the Network.
> >>>
> >>>  NRIII
> >>>
> >>>  Nicholas Ruiz III, Ph.D
> >>>  Editor, Kritikos
> >>>  <http://intertheory.org>http://intertheory.org
> >>>
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Verena Andermatt Conley

Department of Comparative Literature and Romance Languages
and Literature
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Harvard University
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