[-empyre-] networks of catastrophe + terror/capital

[fredericneyrat at free.fr]

hello Sean,

but the problem is:
has the difference between Evil and Innocents to be tanken for granted
? Of course not, so what does Good means if this difference has to be
de-constructed (or erased) ? Maybe this name is just able to produce
another split.

Unless Good means : something without a form, a shape, something
'beyond any Ideas' as Plato said in The Republic. Art has to do
something with this Good-without-a-form - and the name for this is the
sublime, isn't it ?

Frederic



Selon Sean Cubitt <scubitt at unimelb.edu.au>:

> A catastrophe in its ordinary running, and a crisis-prone
> catastrophe.
>
> Fifteen years ago, or maybe twebnty, Jimmie Durham noticed that the
> invading
> white men accused the native Americans of rape, scalping,
> gratuitous
> slaughter of whole villages . . .  But that of course it was the
> other way
> round. Who still believes violence is repressed in liberal
> capitalist
> democracies? It is the everyday rapes, pillage and murders by which
> capitalism manages to profit from its own catastrophic nature. The
> unending
> terror that began with Calvin still populates the very heart of
> commerce
> (and the state is its executive branch)
>
> The problem now can be phrased like this: The world is split
> between Evil
> (regimes, terrorists . . .) and Innocent (civilians, victims . . .
> ). There
> is no room left for the Good. What art can do uniquely is to speak
> of the
> Good, that is of the very thing that does not exist in or for
> contemporary
> capitalism
>
> sean
>
>
>
>
> On 29/11/08 10:21 AM, "Verena Conley" <vconley at fas.harvard.edu>
> wrote:
>
> > Excellent point. Of course, terror is endemic to capitalism.
> Though we still
> > have to define it.
> > Also, since earlier we spoke of catastrophes, it seems fairly
> safe to say that
> > free market capitalism the way it was practiced since 1989 but
> especially 2000
> > is the real catastrophe.
> >
> > Verena
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 5:05 PM, simon <swht at clear.net.nz> wrote:
> >> Does this mean - the following - the following (too late), which
> my
> >> earlier post was an attempting to articulate: that capital
> encodes
> >> terror? makes use of it in its flows of symbolic exchange? as if
> having
> >> reached a critical velocity, the accident of history is given to
> >> returning endlessly?
> >>
> >> Or conversely has there been some sort of symbolic phase shift
> whereby
> >> the simulacrum, the coded world, that Image of
> >> thought-as-representation, now only runs by circulating, through
> the
> >> circulation of, acts/networked nodes of terrestrial and
> extraterrestrial
> >> terror? Is capital now entrained in the duration of terror? (As
> we are
> >> entrained in the durations of its spectacular technological
> means.)
> >>
> >> Simon Taylor
> >>
> >> www.squarewhiteworld.com <http://www.squarewhiteworld.com>
> >> www.brazilcoffee.co.nz <http://www.brazilcoffee.co.nz>
> >>
> >>
> >> Nicholas Ruiz III wrote:
> >>> > As a reflection of the transparency of evil (Baudrillard),
> the whole
> >>> > lot of it, Mumbai, etc.--is commerical art...and the millions
> of
> >>> > downloads, transmissions and commentaries are its market,
> paid for in
> >>> > broadcast fees, cable and satellite subscriptions and
> financed by
> >>> > advertisers: with media art critics and all!  We are
> enveloped by a
> >>> > postmodern Roman media coliseum, where gladiatorial urges are
> elicited
> >>> > and fulfilled, where spectators take part in the war games,
> which are
> >>> > repeated endlessly and archived for posterity on the Network.
> >>> >
> >>> > NRIII
> >>> >
> >>> > Nicholas Ruiz III, Ph.D
> >>> > Editor, Kritikos
> >>> > http://intertheory.org
> >>> >
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> >
> >
>
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