[-empyre-] Frente 3 de Fevereiro forward

[Eduardo Molinari]

keep in contact dear Christina!!!!
all the best,
eduardo



Eduardo Molinari / Archivo Caminante
Aramburu 880, Dto.1 (1640) Martínez
Provincia de Buenos Aires – Argentina
0541 1 47 98 48 35


--- El sáb 31-may-08, naxsmash <naxsmash at mac.com> escribió:

> De: naxsmash <naxsmash at mac.com>
> Asunto: Re: [-empyre-] Frente 3 de Fevereiro forward
> Para: archivocaminante at yahoo.com.ar, "soft_skinned_space" <empyre at gamera.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
> Fecha: sábado, 31 de mayo de 2008, 4:45 pm
> dear Eduardo,
> 
> Thank you for your passionate and loving words, your
> attention to us  
> all on the list.  --
> my deepest respect and admiration!
> 
> Christina
> 
> 
> On May 31, 2008, at 11:51 AM, Eduardo Molinari wrote:
> 
> > Hi Felipe and Daniel!
> > hi Brian, hi all,
> >
> > never is late!!!
> >
> > thank you for your words.
> >
> > Close to the end,
> > I want to say thank you very much to Jennifer,
> > that invites me to this big and intense dialogue.
> > Also to Cristina, Brian and all.
> >
> > I really have many new questions in my brainnnnn!
> >
> > I wish that our reflections bring to us new tools for
> our daily
> > fight against a world without social justice
> > and also to find a new relation with nature.
> >
> > All the best for all,
> > from Buenos Aires (in the middle of the "Soja
> battle")
> > muchas gracias,
> > eduardo
> >
> >
> > Eduardo Molinari / Archivo Caminante
> > Aramburu 880, Dto.1 (1640) Martínez
> > Provincia de Buenos Aires – Argentina
> > 0541 1 47 98 48 35
> >
> >
> > --- El sáb 31-may-08, brian whitener
> <iwaslike at hotmail.com> escribió:
> >
> >> De: brian whitener <iwaslike at hotmail.com>
> >> Asunto: [-empyre-] Frente 3 de Fevereiro forward
> >> Para: empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au
> >> Fecha: sábado, 31 de mayo de 2008, 2:31 pm
> >> Dear friends,
> >>
> >> I sent this e-mail yesterday, but I still
> haven't
> >> received it yet on the list.
> >> Could you send it again for me, please?
> >> And please explain that I sent it yesterday and
> not today.
> >> Thank you very much.
> >>
> >>          Abrazos,
> >>
> >>
> >>  Felipe
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Everybody,
> >>
> >> We, from the Frente 3 de Fevereiro, are really
> sorry to
> >> only contribute to this discussion in the end of
> it.
> >> We
> >> have been really busy in the last month finishing
> our Music
> >> Album and improving our Website.
> >> We have finished both.
> >> We invite everybody to visit the new website:
> >> http://www.frente3defevereiro.com.br/
> >> The songs can be heard there and soon they will be
> >> available for download at the website (June 10th).
> >>
> >> We would like to contribute to the discussion
> first by
> >> answering some questions that Brian Whitener has
> put for
> >> us.
> >> The questions were:
> >> 1) How these
> >> critiques that are very
> >> conscious of global geo-politics with very
> localized, or
> >> situated and
> >> responsive interventions, are conceived (and how
> do they
> >> direct the work)?
> >> 2) What are the
> >> mechanisms of intervention?
> >> 3) What can we learn from these groups and
> >> artists (most of whom have 10 or more years of
> working).
> >> 4) How can we
> >> translate (conceptually, literally, and
> figurative) between
> >> these
> >> experiences, contexts, and
> theorizations/embodiments of
> >> critique?
> >> 5) And
> >> how can we potenciate a new cycle of struggle?
> >> 6)
> >> What are the forces in your context (both situated
> and
> >> historical)?
> >> Globalization? Neoliberalism? Imperialism? (a
> related
> >> question would
> >> be: can the Argentinean experience from 1999-2003
> be
> >> collapsed into the
> >> anti-globalization movement? What about Brazilian
> >> movements? Are we
> >> still in the neoliberal moment? Or its crisis? Or
> is crisis
> >> its
> >> moment?)
> >> 7) What does the current moment look like/feel
> like?
> >> (for example in Mexico, there several strong
> insurgent
> >> movements, APPO,
> >> Zap,  but in Mexico City we continue to watch and
> wait.
> >> Thus, our
> >> moment is much different from the Argentinean
> moment).
> >> 8) Current practices. What are you doing and why?
> >> 9) One question you think we should be thinking
> about.
> >> 10) The group started as
> >> response to media, does it continue like this...?
> >>
> >> 11) Can you talk more about
> >> the idea of "the cartographer is a true
> cultural
> >> cannibal¨"
> >>
> >> 12) Is it accurate to say
> >> that your practice is concerned with inventing new
> ways of
> >> reading and writing desires, therefore inventing
> new forms
> >> of
> >> sociability?
> >>
> >> 13) Current projects?
> >>
> >> Here are the Answers:
> >>
> >> 1)
> >> Our group was formed with a very clear and
> specific
> >> objective: to
> >> reflect and act upon the racism issue in Brazilian
> society.
> >> Of course,
> >> from that we could connect this issue with other
> issues
> >> that are more
> >> ample, and more global (like immigration problems,
> or mass
> >> incarceration processes, etc.). Since the
> >> beginning we have questioned exclusion and
> >> oppression mechanisms like the racist bias in the
> police
> >> action, the
> >> architecture of exclusion of our cities, the
> industry of
> >> fear, the
> >> security bubbles created in our
> >> society and the criminalization and mass
> confinement
> >> policies that
> >> have targeted mainly black young people. The
> critique comes
> >> from the
> >> identification of some sort of "urgency"
> that we
> >> feel and that we
> >> consider that others also feel it. From this
> >> identification, we try to
> >> find elements or symbols that could help us reveal
> the
> >> mechanisms and
> >> contradictions surrounding the urgency context.
> The direct
> >> intervention
> >> in the public space brings us new elements to make
> the
> >> urgency
> >> situation evident and to provoke a reflection
> about it. So,
> >> the
> >> critique of the mechanisms that creates urgencies
> is always
> >> the
> >> starting point to our work, which seeks to not
> only make
> >> the critique
> >> public, but to foster a reflections in the public
> about the
> >> problem.
> >>
> >> 2)
> >> To elaborate the intervention, we try to find a
> symbolic
> >> and artistic
> >> way to expose the urgency. We also try to find
> cracks in
> >> the systems
> >> that controls the public spaces, so that we can
> use these
> >> cracks that
> >> are not foreseen by the system to foster a
> reflection in
> >> the public
> >> space. The target are the people who are on the
> public
> >> space of the
> >> action, but also, if it is possible to find a
> crack in the
> >> media
> >> system, the possible viewers of the media system.
> For
> >> example, we
> >> opened huge flags with messages questioning the
> racism in
> >> football
> >> games, so we got to the public watching the game
> at the
> >> stadium, but we
> >> also got the TV to show it live, so we reached
> everybody
> >> who was
> >> watching the game. After that we also try to
> organize an
> >> artistic
> >> presentation (with music, video and performance)
> to reach
> >> even more
> >> people and new publics. This different arts
> combine to
> >> create an artistic dialogue and discourse that
> allows
> >> different
> >> appropriations from the viewers. So, the artistic
> and the
> >> political are always together in our work.
> >>
> >> 3)
> >> When we exchange experiences with other groups, we
> get in
> >> contact with
> >> other realities, which helps us to understand
> better the
> >> mechanism of
> >> the processes that we confront in the local
> context, but
> >> that are also
> >> linked to global processes. We also get in touch
> with other
> >> ways of
> >> action and their relations to the specific
> contexts. This
> >> gives us the
> >> opportunity to reflect about our own conceptions
> and
> >> practices. So,
> >> both our knowledge of our reality and our creative
> process
> >> can enlarge
> >> in contact with other groups.
> >>
> >> 4) We consider that we can
> >> translate these experiences by two ways. One is by
> >> analyzing their
> >> local context and how it relates to global
> processes and
> >> compare this
> >> to how our local context also relates to global
> processes.
> >> The other is
> >> by analyzing their strategies and its relations to
> the
> >> local context
> >> and then understanding the differences and
> similarities of
> >> these
> >> relations with the relations between our
> strategies and our
> >> local
> >> contexts. Again, this allows us to translate these
> >> experiences as to
> >> their realities and to their methodologies or
> strategies.
> >>
> >> 5)
> >> This is a really difficult question. We don't
> think
> >> that anyone has the
> >> final answer to it. For now, we believe that we
> have to
> >> keep exchanging
> >> experiences between our groups and creating
> international
> >> networks. But
> >> these networks shouldn't be just for
> discussing, they
> >> must be useful to
> >> create partnerships for mew works, that is, they
> must allow
> >> the
> >> different groups not only to share experiences,
> but to put
> >> groups from
> >> different contexts to work together in some other
> local
> >> contexts. Here
> >> we agree with Bijari about the
> >> "situação-relacional"
> ("relational
> >> situation").
> >>
> >> 6) In the reality of our country, we can identify
> >> some of this forces like neoliberalism or
> imperialism. But
> >> the kind of
> >> forces that we more directly deal with are
> criminalization
> >> and
> >> anti-social mechanisms that create exclusion in
> the cities
> >> and in its
> >> public spaces. These (and the forces related to
> them like
> >> mass
> >> incarceration and increasing violence in the urban
> >> conflicts) are the
> >> processes that have a more direct effect on us. Of
> course,
> >> they are
> >> connected to the more general forces, like
> neoliberalism
> >>
> (http://sociology.berkeley.edu/faculty/wacquant/wacquant_pdf/PENALISAPOVNEOLIB-EJPPR.pdf
> >> ; also
> >>
> http://sociology.berkeley.edu/faculty/wacquant/wacquant_pdf/DICTATORSHIPOOR.pdf)
> 
> >> ,
> >> but we try to act upon the more concrete ways in
> which
> >> these general
> >> processes really affect peoples lives, so we deal
> more with
> >> these other
> >> more "local" forces. We are not sure if
> it is
> >> clear that the Brazilian
> >> movements are related to the anti-globalization
> movement.
> >> Of course,
> >> there is influence (it is not a coincidence that
> the firsts
> >> World
> >> Social Forums were here), but also, the reality of
> most of
> >> the people
> >> here is very distant from such global discussions.
> >> Just as a personal
> >> note, I consider that neoliberalism is actually in
> crisis
> >> and that we
> >> are experiencing some kind of post-neoliberal
> moment not
> >> only in Latin
> >> America, but also in the world.
> >>
> >> 7) In Brazil, we have two
> >> contradictory movements going on. One is a much
> wider
> >> discussion on
> >> topics like public security, affirmative action,
> >> criminalization,
> >> incarceration policies and social exclusion and
> inequality.
> >> On the
> >> other hand, there is a conservative reaction that
> affirms
> >> the idea of
> >> the fear of the urban criminal violence and
> therefore
> >> creates support
> >> for more oppression and penalization. So this is a
> crucial
> >> moment in
> >> Brazil and we still don't know which way the
> country
> >> will follow.
> >> Therefore, the social mobilization is critical to
> influence
> >> the
> >> direction that we think is right. We consider our
> work very
> >> important
> >> in this context to contribute to a more
> democratic,
> >> inclusive and
> >> public society, with new forms of sociability.
> >>
> >> 8)
> >> We just finished a music album, which was the
> third part of
> >> a work that
> >> included a documentary and a book. Right now we
> are
> >> developing a
> >> project that will discuss the issues of the
> geography of
> >> exclusion in
> >> three different contexts: Johannesburg, São Paulo
> and
> >> Berlin. This will
> >> help us to reflect about the mechanisms of
> exclusion and
> >> the potentials
> >> of overcoming barriers in really different
> realities.
> >>
> >> 9) Some questions:
> >>
> >> What are the possibilities to
> >> break the established order and in which way they
> can
> >> contribute to
> >> emancipation?
> >>
> >> How can we scape from
> >> criminalization?
> >>
> >> What are the mechanisms that
> >> create exclusion in the cities?
> >>
> >>
> >> 10)
> >> Actually, we don't really respond to the
> media. We take
> >> advantage of
> >> some facts that the media are making public and
> use them to
> >> question
> >> established ideas about racism and exclusion,
> reaching the
> >> public that
> >> gets in touch with these issues trough the media.
> We still
> >> act this way.
> >>
> >>
> >> 11)
> >> This idea means that the cartographer appropriates
> himself
> >> of
> >> everything around him so that he can poetically
> express new
> >> forms of
> >> reading and writing his desires, that which makes
> him move
> >> and act. In
> >> this way, he uses everything he can from the world
> to
> >> create new and
> >> multiple practices, ways of understanding and
> forms of
> >> sociability.
> >> This is what we try to do.
> >>
> >>
> >> 12) That is exactly our ultimate goal.
> >>
> >>
> >> 13)
> >> As we said, we just finished the music album and
> the new
> >> website, we
> >> are developing the Johannesburg-São Paulo-Berlin
> project
> >> and we are
> >> trying to develop a project to take the group to
> the U.S.
> >> to discuss
> >> the connections between the Prison Industrial
> Complex,
> >> Racism and
> >> Immigration issues.
> >>
> >>
> >> Sorry for the very long e-mail.
> >>
> >> And sorry for contributing just at the end of the
> >> discussion.
> >>
> >> We are open for further discussion, questions, or
> doubts.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thank you very much,
> >>
> >>
> >>               Felipe and Daniel - Frente 3 de
> Fevereiro
> >>
> >>
> >>
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