[-empyre-] Question

[sdv at krokodile.co.uk]

Irina,

Why not, why do you differentiate them ?  The logic of Jason's position 
is that there is no difference... besides the problem remains that the 
concept of 'porn' only has meaning after it has been typed, and on the 
net it has been typed as exchange...




 

Irina Contreras wrote:
> spam is one thing to me...
> but  porn too? really?
> especially after we just had discussions about sharing is sex?
>
>
>
> --- On Thu, 6/19/08, sdv at krokodile.co.uk <sdv at krokodile.co.uk> wrote:
>
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>> From: sdv at krokodile.co.uk <sdv at krokodile.co.uk>
>> Subject: Re: [-empyre-] Question
>> To: heliopod at yahoo.com, "soft_skinned_space" <empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
>> Date: Thursday, June 19, 2008, 12:19 PM
>> Jason/all
>>
>> One of the now defunkt net-art lists was once inhabited by
>> a net-artist 
>> who used to glory in the idea of spam-as-art, s/he had no
>> reason, 
>> logical or otherwise for declaring that the spam and porn 
>> was  art but 
>> did so anyway. I suppose your justification is better than
>> his, but if 
>> seperated from the in-joke it still seems to suffer from
>> the same 
>> problem that 'spam-as-art' did, namely that it
>> vanishes into the ever 
>> increasing amounts of endless rubbish that constitutes the
>> net.
>>
>> However this snail mail joke is charming and might be
>> suitably random  
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/help/4162471.stm...
>>
>>
>>
>> s
>>
>>
>>
>> Jason Nelson wrote:
>>     
>>> Sure......I suppose the same could be said for much of
>>>       
>> experimental
>>     
>>> fiction or abstract art etc....the idea that
>>>       
>> unexpected posts might
>>     
>>> appear to be spam at first is a valid concern.....
>>>
>>> but much like graffiti or other tagging, the art comes
>>>       
>> from posting
>>     
>>> something that both "fits in that net space"
>>>       
>> and creates an interesting
>>     
>>> part of a narrative or simply a pretty micro fiction
>>>       
>> or even a non
>>     
>>> sensical poem....
>>>
>>> these places where users can enter data and briefly
>>>       
>> express themselves
>>     
>>> are quickly becoming a powerful form of written
>>>       
>> communication and
>>     
>>> therefore we creative types must begin to explore
>>>       
>> those conduits 
>>     
>>> as venues/canvasses for interesting words....
>>>
>>> so I suppose I would throw it back to you and say
>>>       
>> write something
>>     
>>> that doesnt seem spam like.....
>>>
>>> cheers, Jason
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Wed, 6/18/08, sdv at krokodile.co.uk
>>>       
>> <sdv at krokodile.co.uk> wrote:
>>     
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> From: sdv at krokodile.co.uk
>>>>         
>> <sdv at krokodile.co.uk>
>>     
>>>> Subject: [-empyre-] Question
>>>> To: empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au
>>>> Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 11:44 AM
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>> Reading a few of the notes that have been written
>>>>         
>> on the
>>     
>>>> net, I realized that I could see no difference
>>>>         
>> between the
>>     
>>>> text and the average piece of spam that is
>>>>         
>> automatically
>>     
>>>> deleted either from emails or sites.
>>>>
>>>> What justification can you produce for this
>>>>         
>> proliferation
>>     
>>>> of text?
>>>>
>>>> s
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