[-empyre-] an 'ethico-aesthetic paradigm' - in France and Argentina

Eduardo Molinari archivocaminante at yahoo.com.ar
Wed May 7 11:11:18 EST 2008


Dear Christina, dear Brian H., dear Brian W.

I like very much this conversation!!!!!!!
is really intensive, because the begining,
the quote of Guattari, is describing for me
something that is still working: uniformization.

Like I said in another mail, in argentina,
uniformization means the category: "political art"
or "art & politics". It was a very stupid joke of
Roberto Jacoby the begining of this.

He made a meeting in 2003, and the title of the
discussion was: "Arte rosa light y Arte rosa luxemburgo"
(Light Pink Art and Luxemburgo Pink Art).
This "joke" was -in the middle of a hard cultural
discussion in Argentina on that time- the way to begin
with the uniformization, but also the neutralization
of the vital cultural & social experiences in Argentina.

Relational art is in the center of this artist, part of the generation
of Tucumán Arde, but totally subordinated to the neoliberal discurse
during the 90. 

Since that moment, the groups like GAC or Etcetera - but also the work of artist involved on these resistence movements like León Ferrari, Sonia Abian, Azul Blaseotto or me-  were looked
like betrayers of the fights, because they were part of "art scene",
going to museums. This was also a big trick!

Only many years later, in 2007, the point of view change, and 
the opinions over this experiences have more respect.

When I read the words of Brian Holmes, making a kind of "short history"
of his experience in Argentina, I feel happy: we were alive, and we were sharing our fight. We must continue Brian!


At last, I like the words of Brian W. talking about desires that are still waiting, still working.

is good the insistence of the "new questions", I want to think more about this proposition of this interaction that we have now.

all the best,
eduardo

Eduardo Molinari / Archivo Caminante
Aramburu 880, Dto.1 (1640) Martínez
Provincia de Buenos Aires – Argentina
0541 1 47 98 48 35


--- El lun 5-may-08, brian whitener <iwaslike at hotmail.com> escribió:

> De: brian whitener <iwaslike at hotmail.com>
> Asunto: RE: [-empyre-] an 'ethico-aesthetic paradigm' - in France and Argentina
> Para: "soft_skinned_space" <empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
> Fecha: lunes, 5 de mayo de 2008, 9:41 pm
> I'd like to respond briefly to Brian's amazing post.
> 
> 
> "I would love to hear more about how people in North
> America started to meet the new generation of Latin
> American artists. "
> 
> Out of a profound sense of frustration with the
> experimental poetry world that I had been working in since
> I left college, I moved to Mexico in 2004. A chance
> encounter brought me into contact with people from La
> Lleca, and then every thing spiralled from there, including
> a key visit by Marcelo Exposito (a Spanish artist, activist,
> translator who has been absolutely key in connecting groups
> and artists and defining the current discussion of art and
> politics -- and who will hopefully be posting here sometime
> this month) in 2005 (I think). The Brumaria and then
> transversal really broke things open. So that's my
> narrative ... I'd be thrilled to hear other people
> share their own....
> 
> But really another narrative might be more important: a
> narrative of desires, both unrealized and unknown, in the
> context of post Seattle, post 9/11, post Iraq War 2. A
> desire to looking for a different way of working, a desire
> to be open to a more radical remaking of life and politics.
> (And a desire now not to take on the position of
> representing others.) All difficult desires to negotiate. 
> 
> "It seemed important to put that culture into
> circulation, to let people know that if circumstances were
> right, you could try something, you could really
> experiment."
> 
> I agree. And I continue to feel like this is important and
> that there is still much more to be said about the
> (on-going) work of these groups -- and the nascent or in
> progress work of others. I really do feel like there was an
> "event" here ... an opening onto something new
> that we still really haven't grasped... thus empyre
> this month! 
> 
> The one way that my narrative (perhaps) differs from
> Brian's -- and this is something that I wanted to bring
> out in my inital post -- is in terms of geography. The
> Argentinean experience was not a lived experience for me --
> thus I don't have access to the sadness that Colectivo
> Situaciones (www.situaciones.org/ ) write so eloquently
> about politicizing (highly recommended reading, a key for
> understanding Arg 1999-2003)
> 
> http://www.chtodelat.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=329&Itemid=167
> 
> Rather I have a continuing sense of desire waiting to be
> realized. But as CS write, "the process does not end
> in defeats and victories" ... so perhaps in terms of a
> psychogeography of desire we are actually in a similar
> place.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------
> > Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 12:48:53 +0200
> > From: brian.holmes at wanadoo.fr
> > To: empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au
> > Subject: Re: [-empyre-] an 'ethico-aesthetic
> paradigm' - in France and	Argentina
> > 
> > Christina, thanks for Felix Guattari's brilliant
> quote.
> > 
> > That was his last book, in 1992 soon before he died.
> Maybe the reason I 
> > felt so close to Etcetera and the Grupo de Arte
> Callejero when we 
> > finally met in 2004, is because we went through
> similar relations to the 
> > inflated art scenes of the 90s. Guattari describes it
> perfectly in 
> > Chaosmosis, when he says that art "can move in a
> direction parallel to 
> > uniformization, or play the role of an operator in the
> bifuraction of 
> > subjectivity." That was exactly the story of
> cultural consumption in the 
> > decades of Mitterand and his culture minister, Jack
> Lang. The "landscape 
> > of French art" became so uniform in those years,
> with its 
> > pseudo-diversity of minor differences always trying to
> find a way into 
> > the institutional market. Meanwhile you knew that the
> whole world was 
> > changing, new divides were opening up in society, new
> possibilities too. 
> > The question was how to break out of this slick,
> sophisticated 
> > conformism, to touch something real in this life? In
> the mid-1990s I was 
> > struggling with the economics of globalization and
> demonstrating with 
> > artists out in the streets. To be an activist then was
> not fashionable 
> > in any way, it was considered totally retrograde in
> artistic circles. I 
> > think that must have been even more intensely the case
> in Buenos Aires, 
> > when HIJOS started to form in 1996.
> > 
> > Etcetera came together on a parallel track, sometime
> in the mid-1990s, 
> > just kids but wild and determined ones, creating their
> "Globalized Boy" 
> > with the desperate eyes and the pump to blow up the
> swelling stomach, so 
> > the public could participate in class relations. As
> far as I know they 
> > started working with HIJOS around 1998, doing
> surrealistic theater in 
> > the streets as they still do today. Argentine society
> was in the midst 
> > of the huge and phony postmodern boom, with the
> aesthetics you would 
> > expect: a soaring painting market dominated by
> colorful and ironic 
> > abstraction. Arte Light, I think they called it. In
> France it was 
> > different of course: it was the heyday of relational
> aesthetics, the 
> > perfect machine to take over the institutions in a
> period of centrist 
> > socialism. I suppose conditions were more extreme in
> Argentina (that's a 
> > truism) - after all, in France we had been through
> 1995, the biggest 
> > general strike since 68. So even though culture had
> not budged, there 
> > were many things happening, interesting discussions in
> philosophy and 
> > the social sciences, breakthroughs in the leftist
> analysis of 
> > globalization. And by the end of the decade you
> started to hear the 
> > rumors of amazing actions in the streets, in England
> and Italy.
> > 
> > I remember Next 5 Minutes 3, in early '99 I think,
> where I went to talk 
> > about the street art group Ne Pas Plier in which I was
> involved at the 
> > time. Those three days of meetings blew my mind with
> images of 
> > possibility that all started coming true immediately
> afterwards. Soon it 
> > was June 18th in London, then Seattle and the
> IMF/World Bank protests in 
> > Prague... One of the members of the Grupo de Arte
> Callejero, Federico 
> > Geller, told me it was the inspiration of the Prague
> protests that got 
> > him started in activism. The relation between the GAC
> and Ne Pas Plier 
> > was striking: the same kinds of clear, bold effective
> graphics, the same 
> > commitment to the social movements, the same
> understanding of how 
> > powerful printed informational forms could become,
> when they are taken 
> > up by crowds of people who put their bodies on the
> line. Only one 
> > difference: in France we were working with unemployed
> people, homeless 
> > people, sans papiers, and trying to kick the
> supposedly left governments 
> > into action. In Argentina the neoliberals were in
> power, with their 
> > dogmas of amnesia, and HIJOS were going out in front
> of the houses of 
> > former accomplices of the dictatorship, and trying to
> make sure people 
> > remembered what had happened in the 1970s, and could
> happen again tomorrow.
> > 
> > At the time we were reading about the piqueteros in
> the newspapers: 
> > insistent stories, they were cutting roads in the
> faraway provinces, 
> > Neuquen, Salta... They were burning tires on the
> highways, demanding 
> > jobs, welfare payments, something to eat. A whole
> middle class that had 
> > fallen through the gaping cracks in Carlos Menem's
> corrupt dream of a 
> > neoliberal economic miracle. At exactly the moment
> when the 
> > antiglobalization movement reached its peak, then took
> September 11 in 
> > the face and staggered, the piquetero movements
> reached Buenos Aires and 
> > unleashed the Argentine insurrection. December 19-20,
> 2001: just a few 
> > days before that I was out with all the gang in
> Brussels, at the Laaken 
> > summit, the first big European demo after S-11. We had
> no idea 
> > neoliberalism was gonna crack and burn in Argentina.
> But to tell you the 
> > truth, I'm not sure they did either.
> > 
> > In Europe we had become something like a huge
> minority, active 
> > throughout society, connected across the globe, using
> the new tools and 
> > the old ones too, mounting transnational actions that
> were anything but 
> > virtual, always that smell of teargas and the asphalt
> pounding under 
> > your feet. In Argentina they were suddenly the
> majority, the banks had 
> > closed, the very essence of capitalism was on hold,
> the middle class 
> > itself wanted a radically new order - or said they did
> - and the city 
> > was wide open. The Social Forum movement was rising in
> Latin America and 
> > in Europe. We thought maybe it was gonna be the
> revolution everywhere 
> > and they were sure a whole new society could be
> invented. Well, by the 
> > time I went to Argentina for the first time, on a
> spontaneous trip with 
> > my neighbor Stephen Wright, I think it was in February
> of 2004, in 
> > reality all that was finished and the
> antiglobalization movement too. 
> > What you had was this immense aftermath, total
> enthusiasm from everyone 
> > involved and the desire to go further, but how? where?
> The answers would 
> > come in Venezuela, in Bolivia... But for sure not in
> Europe and not 
> > really in Argentina either.
> > 
> > The coincidence of our trip to Argentina was that the
> whole 
> > fantastically interesting endeavor of Ex Argentina was
> already underway, 
> > Alice and Andreas Siekmann had been in the country
> several times, 
> > organizing their impressively deep and radical
> exhibition project. 
> > Colectivo Situaciones was involved, Lazzarato came and
> spoke in Buenos 
> > Aires, very interesting stuff. Actually we had no idea
> what was gonna 
> > happen, neither Stephen or I had a clue about Alice
> and Andreas, but 
> > most of the artists we met would be in that show. I
> remember smoking 
> > joints in the afternoon with Etcetera (our first
> meeting) and trying to 
> > translate for Stephen the hilarious videos of the
> Etcetera events, 
> > particularly the Mierdazo seemed the most delirious...
> When I got back 
> > to France after a few weeks with so many brilliant
> people it was a 
> > natural to just get in the train and go to Cologne for
> the opening of Ex 
> > Argentina in March 2004. Some European friends were in
> that show too: 
> > Bureau d'Etudes, Alejandra Riera... Two books have
> been produced of that 
> > work, one for the Cologne show and another for the
> Buenos Aires version, 
> > called La Normalidad. You get the picture, right? Back
> to normal here, 
> > don't kid yourself anymore. Or as they say in
> France, "Circulez, il y a 
> > rien a voir!" Just keep moving, there's
> nothing to see....
> > 
> > What opened up in the meantime was an amazing
> circulation of radicalized 
> > artists between Latin America and Europe. Sometime in
> 2005 I think, 
> > Suely Rolnik and I met with the WHW girls in Rio
> (that's What, How and 
> > for Whom? from Croatia) and helped set up a lot of
> contacts for a great 
> > exhibition called Collective Creativity. Among all
> kinds of others were 
> > BiJaRi, The Revolution Will not be Televised,
> Etcetera, Grupo de Arte 
> > Callejero, Contra File, the Tucuman Arde archive... I
> actually wrote my 
> > text for that catalogue while in Rosario, on my second
> visit with Claire 
> > Pentecost. Brazilians from Sao Paolo also took part in
> La Normalidad, in 
> > January 2006 - I regret I didn't make it but
> Claire and I were in 
> > Caracas for the World Social Forum! I would love to
> hear more about how 
> > people in North America started to meet the new
> generation of Latin 
> > American artists. It seemed important to put that
> culture into 
> > circulation, to let people know that if circumstances
> were right, you 
> > could try something, you could really experiment. At
> the same time it 
> > was back to normal, it was the art world, the onset of
> the new 
> > conformism. With Federico Zukerfeld we always joke
> about something Tunga 
> > once said to him, about the artistic mafia, the deals
> that you make. 
> > Something illicit, the rules of dirty tricks between
> old and new friends 
> > in a parallel society with a very "normal"
> front end - what I also 
> > called Liar's Poker, in a text that Spanish
> speakers seem to love with a 
> > particular ferocity....
> > 
> > Do you wanna live in a white cube? Or in a virtual
> network? Does art 
> > somehow gnaw at the pit of your stomach? Or is it just
> a ticket for an 
> > endless world tour? Etcetera began with the Globalized
> Boy, and they 
> > always brought the memory of hunger out into the
> streets. In France we 
> > demonstrated with empty shopping carts, the unemployed
> people would do 
> > these amazing charges with the clattering metal on
> wheels. Today it's 
> > out there, everywhere, bizarrely more and more in this
> age of affluence. 
> > Argentina has gotten rich again, off soy for export,
> and there's hunger 
> > riots in the streets. 100 million more people go
> hungry this year than 
> > the last. The grotesque neoliberal speculation of the
> 1990s has never 
> > stopped, it has just moved down the hierarchy of
> needs, from our 
> > imaginations when it was centered on the Internet, to
> the roofs above 
> > our heads with the subprime bubble, to the commodities
> markets today - 
> > and that's not just gold and oil, but above all
> grains, rice, wheat, 
> > corn, soybeans. This system is insane. And how are we
> gonna find a way 
> > to put some ethics back in out paradigm? That's
> the question I see on 
> > the horizon. And I think all our mafias should get
> into action again....
> > 
> > un abrazo grande,
> > 
> > Brian
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Christina McPhee wrote:
> > > dear -empyre-
> > > 
> > > While awaiting Jennifer, I 've come upon a
> text by Felix Guattari which 
> > > I really enjoy and that seems an ideal
> provocation surrounding this 
> > > months' artists positions and production.
> > > 
> > > This quote comes from an excerpt from 
> "Chaosmosis: An Ethico-Aesthetic 
> > > Paradigm" (1992), reprinted in
> Participation, the compilation edited by 
> > > Claire Bishop-- l (London : Whitechapel and
> Cambride: MIT Press, 2006). 
> > > The translation from the French is by Paul Bains
> and Julian Pefanis, and 
> > > was  originally published in a book by the same
> title, Indianapolis: 
> > > Indiana University Press, 1995.
> > > 
> > > "The growth in artistic consumption we have
> witnessed in recent years 
> > > should be placed, nevertheless, in relation to
> the increasing uniformity 
> > > of the life of individuals in the urban context. 
> It should be 
> > > emphasized that the quasi-vitaminic function of
> this artistic 
> > > consumption is not univocalo.  It can move in a
> direction parallel to 
> > > uniformization, or play the role of an operator
> in the bifuraction of 
> > > subjectivity.... this is the dilemma every artist
> has to confront:  'to 
> > > go with the flow,' as advocated, for example,
> by the Transavantgarde and 
> > > the apostles of postmodernism, or to work for the
> renewal of aesthetic 
> > > practices relayed by other inovative sements of
> the Socius, at the rist 
> > > of encountering incomprehension and of being
> iolated by the majority of 
> > > people.
> > > 
> > > "Of course, it's not at all clear how
> one can claim to hold creative 
> > > singularity and potential social mutations
> together... it nonetheless 
> > > remains the case that the imense crisis sweeping
> the planet-- chronic 
> > > unemployment, ecological devastation,
> dereugulation of modes of 
> > > valorization uniquely based on profit or State
> assistance -- open
> > > the fild up to a different deployment of
> aesthetic  components.... today 
> > > our societies have their backs up against the
> wall; to survive they will 
> > > lhave to develop research, innoviation and
> creation still  further -- 
> > > the very dimensions which imply an awareness of
> the strictly aesthetic 
> > > techniques of rupture and suture.   Something is
> detached and starts to 
> > > work for itself,  just as it can work for you if
> you can 'agglomerate' 
> > > yourself to such a process.  Such a questioning
> concerns every 
> > > institutional domain; for example, the school. 
> How do you make a class 
> > > operate like a work of art?  What are the
> possible paths to its 
> > > singularization, the source of a 'purchase on
> existence' for the 
> > > children who  compose it? And on the register of
> what I once called 
> > > 'molecular revolutions,' the Third World
> conceals treasures which 
> > > deserve to be explored....
> > > 
> > > "Perhaps artists today constitute the final
> lines along which primordial 
> > > existential questions are foldeed.  How are the
> new fields of the 
> > > possible going to be fitted out?  How are sounds
> and forms going to be 
> > > arranged so that the subjectivity adjacent to
> them remains in movement, 
> > > and really alive?
> > > 
> > > -cm
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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