[-empyre-] Nake and the Notion of "Public"

Eduardo Molinari archivocaminante at yahoo.com.ar
Sun May 11 11:00:31 EST 2008


Dear G.H.

when I said that is necessary to be against consumer culture I wasn't talking about "populism". I was tryng to imagine another way of interaction between the persons in a cultural experience.
And this new experience is not "populism".
For me the challenge is not to think in artefacts, objects (fetiches)
but to manufacture places, actions: time / space not capitalistic.
To do and not to work (John Holloway).
To be vulnerable to the other. Not anestesia.(Suelly Rolnik)
If you only consume you are under anestesia. 
Not curiosity, not surprises.
culture is not eficience.

all the best,
e.m.


Eduardo Molinari / Archivo Caminante
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--- El jue 8-may-08, G.H. Hovagimyan <ghh at thing.net> escribió:

> De: G.H. Hovagimyan <ghh at thing.net>
> Asunto: Re: [-empyre-] Nake and the Notion of "Public"
> Para: "soft_skinned_space" <empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
> Cc: "soft_skinned_space" <empyre at gamera.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
> Fecha: jueves, 8 de mayo de 2008, 1:32 pm
> Aliettes whole essay is inspiring. She's a better ranter
> than I am  
> and it's not even her native tongue! Bravo!
> 
> I've used both the Détournement and the Dérive in my
> works. recently  
> I've been working/ organizing an artist group called
> Artists  
> Meeting-- http://artistsmeeting.org . We meet every three
> weeks and  
> we also carry on conversations & schemes online. All of
> the members  
> have jobs and are productive member of the creative class.
> What  
> happens is to disrupt that inevitability we meet and
> produce various  
> collaborative projects. The whole group is in the process
> of drifting  
> through aesthetic situations. We are now planning a project
> that will  
> utilize the Situationist process of, "Faire La
> Pause"
> 
> It must be noted that to combat hyper-capitalism and
> consumer culture  
> is really difficult. The populist opposition is a return to
> religion  
> which is a horrible choice.
> 
> 
> On May 8, 2008, at 7:53 AM, Aliette Guibert-Certhoux wrote:
> 
> > hat is a real impact to public communication even
> virtual public as  
> > necessary relay of naturalist or abstract narrations
> and virtual  
> > simulations of the living social fights. Because
> multimedia is  
> > interfering the bare life from here to there. Our
> memory of the  
> > opened life and opened societies are in real time
> --just a bit  
> > differred what installs the minimalist distance of the
> new critical  
> > view --the gift of the public virtuality as
> conscousness of ithe   
> > unpredictable part of reality of our fast acts. That
> is not  
> > aesthetic, that is ethics understood as an increase of
> the  
> > conditions of collective risk through our common or
> individual  
> > independent practices of the risk (even the laugh)
> --as in all  
> > symoblic
> dispositions._______________________________________________
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> empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au
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