[-empyre-] What?
Eduardo Molinari
archivocaminante at yahoo.com.ar
Mon May 19 23:18:08 EST 2008
Dear HW,
totally with you,
the quotation is really offensive,
but also, really old.
this "artist", Roberto Jacoby,
today, in my country, is one of the better examples
of the hierarchiq ways of organization of the culture / art system.
He's like "the boss", with centralizated - concentrated styles,
the oposite of freedom.
One quotation of the present of Jacoby:
last tuesday, he was part of a conference, in the university,
Sociology career. In an extracurricular seminare, he was invited to talk about "experimental societies", together with some groups that work connecting art, arquitecture and public space. Most of them, friends of him.
That day (I was there, on the room) jacoby reads (to make reflections about arquitecture and public space, but also about ways of association)
close to 10 pages of the "deffensive" Israel Arm Forces.
"the art of war"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He put in connection war and arquitecture, because, on his thinkings,
the example of the jewish armies is clear.
He made a quotation of an interview of an officer, that explained
the new arguments of the militar education in Israel: Delleuze, Guattari and Foucault. The point is that a new way of making war is working:
the militar forces are "espontanous, polimorf" and work like the organization of the bees.
He also said that is necesary to talk about a "violence that must be tolerate" by "the audience".
For me was like a surrealist situation, but it was not a joke.
He never said some critic commentary about his own quotation.
I think that Cara don't know nothing about the present position of this man. He really betrayed all his "young" words.
Also, during the 90 he was the "boss" of Venus project, until that moment of ramona magazine. Always (in the middle of the destruction of all the historical rights of workers, but also of the education, health systems in Argentina, and of course the "sold out" politic of our resources and services national companies) talking about "experimental societies",
about "friendship technologies", "desire money", "beauty and happiness".
Today he's the "boss" of RIAA, a traditional neoliberal residence system.
what can I say?????
sorry, this is not a good argentine example for me!!!!
Is necesary to de-mistified Tucuman Arde!
It will not be good for our present troubles to go to the past again and again.
We need a new vision.
thank you for your words!
Cara! you must investigate more about this person, today.
eduardo
Eduardo Molinari / Archivo Caminante
Aramburu 880, Dto.1 (1640) Martínez
Provincia de Buenos Aires – Argentina
0541 1 47 98 48 35
--- El lun 19-may-08, h w <misterwarwick at yahoo.com> escribió:
> De: h w <misterwarwick at yahoo.com>
> Asunto: [-empyre-] What?
> Para: empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au
> Fecha: lunes, 19 de mayo de 2008, 1:49 am
> Carla quoted Jacoby:
>
> ---------------------------------------------
> Art² has no importance; it is
> life that counts. Art is the history of the years to come.
> It is the
> creation of the most gigantic collective work in history:
> the conquest
> of the earth, the conquest of freedom by and for all men.
>
> 1963 Mensaje en el Di Tella, Roberto Jacoby
> ---------------------------------------------
>
> Conquest of the Earth, eh? Like any conquest, it shows a
> complete and
> dismissive disregard for the conquered. And in the Great
> War between
> "Man" and "Nature" I can assure you all
> that "Nature" cares even less
> about "Man" than "Man" does of
> "Nature", and in the great struggle
> between "Man" and "Nature":
>
> "NATURE" WINS EVERY TIME. NO EXCEPTIONS.
>
> If the conquest of nature is the price we pay for Art, then
> I humbly
> suggest we abandon Art before Nature abandons us.
>
> That quote by Jacoby is one of the most offensive and
> arrogant bits of
> errant ego-centric suicidal idiocy I have read in a very
> long time.
> But, hey - Better living through chemistry!
>
> As humanity stands at the precipice of extinction, sesshu
> in LA typed:
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> imagination contends with illusion and barks, disconsolate
> squeak.
> body parts, you name it, they invented tags and codes:
> states.
> sneeze all you want to, pointed verbs sticking out of every
> pore.
> agriculture in california exacerbates a green edge on
> water-use.
> i saw something the other day, it was a woman on her
> cellphone.
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> Good move, butch, let me know how that works out for you.
>
> Alliette? Christina? I'm sure you all have something
> sensible to say
> about all this...
>
> HW
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