[-empyre-] to brazil with love

Tue May 27 01:20:56 EST 2008

dear fabi, dear all

thank you for your answer,
I like very much your idea of the "revolution
of colaborative masturbation international"!!!!!
is really great,
on this line of reflections,
incarnation for me is a particular experience
when we "are one" with the other bodies.

I like also very much what you say about these experiences
in madrid. Another "special" word (not esoteric for me, in the worst sense of this) is Ritual.

I think that we need new political rituals.

A ritual for me is an experience where a new temporality is happening,
because the potence of the past and the potence of the future are working at the same time in our bodies. And... is not possible to be out of this.

Maybe you know the idea of Paolo Virno: the red string. 
I like it.

Also the way of Aby Warburg thinkings about the "energies" of the simbols.

Some part of the last conversations were talking (Brian quotations abouf Bifo, for example) talk about "signs". When you change the position of one sign today. I think that is also to make reflections of another dimension of this language: the simbols.

all the best,
thank you,
eduardo

Eduardo Molinari / Archivo Caminante
Aramburu 880, Dto.1 (1640) Martínez
Provincia de Buenos Aires – Argentina
0541 1 47 98 48 35

--- El lun 26-may-08, fabi borges <catadores at gmail.com> escribió:

> De: fabi borges <catadores at gmail.com>
> Asunto: Re: [-empyre-] to brazil with love
> Para: archivocaminante at yahoo.com.ar, "soft_skinned_space" <empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
> Fecha: lunes, 26 de mayo de 2008, 7:26 am
> hei people!!!   Irina e Eduardo, jennifer, brians,
> everybody!!
> 
> first, i have to say my english is not so good, so,,,,
> sorry some
> mistakes...  hilan translate our answers
> but we are waitting to be aproved em empire 
> (esquizotrans at gmail.com) for he
> receive the list aswell.
> 
>  Irina,,,,  i don't know  ícarus project, what about?
> 
> and well,   erotism and politcs
> 
> we can start talking about body control, control of
> sexuality and excessive
> producion about sexual desire,
> we can talk about estereotips, models, fashions, the
> control of abortion
> (woman bodies)...  production of subjectivity or erotic
> subjetivity
> 
> we can talk about all feminism staff, or war against sida,
> or queer and
> homosexual moviment... glbtt, pornography economy and
> pornography like a
> social moviment too...
> 
> everything i talk until now is sexo, body, erotism and
> POLITICS....
> 
> but...   we already know it..
> 
> i thing the word incarnation eduardo brought here is very
> important,
> becouse to bring back the body into a experience for
> thoughs, knowledge is
> maybe the more important micropolitic we can do....
> 
> but it is not just it...   we are leaving a special moment
> about sexual
> narratives...   because the internet, the comunications,
> the free software, colaborative stuff,  the narratives of
> sexualities is
> changing, people are doing they're own videos,
> animations,
> parties, changing the mecanism estetic of pornography
> industry..  and
> more...  make this revolution of colaborative masturbation
> internacional...
> 
> we have some examples of events whit diferents groups of
> interess like
> precarious, vulnerabilities, prostitution, homeless,
> imigration, free
> pornography, queer, free software, ciberfeminism,
> ciberativism, free radio,
> etc...
> 
> we made some events like this in brasil, putting in the
> same space of
> imersion prostitucion, queer, indian and mst (moviment for
> earth)
> 
> well...   in spain it start happend and i could see or
> participate in this
> last tree mouths of some encounters like this
> 
> we dont have a answer...  but experimentations....   it is
> the challenge,
> 
> we are trying to make a event here in madri the name is
> "noise and
> democracy"  where every this stuff is putting
> toguether but not
> for everybody discuss, talk, talk, make polemics...  i
> thing this kind of
> events came whit a leatlle part of inconscientizacion...
> sometimes i call this events squizoanalisis like guattari
> ideas......
> becouse it is about *frequency and intensification and not
> about more
> consciencia*,,,,,  it is a ritual of empowerment...  and of
> course it is a
> leatle dangerous...  because the encounter of alterity -
> alteridad -
> (radical diferences) is not always harmony...   you have to
> be prepared to
> stay there...   *its conectives lines*...   it is about
> xamanism, noise
> music and body...   for make your body open and strong in
> the same time...
> i think toni negri could call it like a constituint event.
> 
> well...  i will write more after and ask hilan to translate
> that..  i hope
> it dont seems like spiritualist discourse eheheoheoehoeo,
> becouse we are
> not,,,
> 
> i send here some links
> 
> http://generatech.ningunlugar.org
> http://www.beatrizpreciado.com/audiovisual.htm
> http://www.sindominio.net/karakola/azien.htm
> http://www.interfaceg2g.org
> 
> besos
> fabi
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 2008/5/25 Eduardo Molinari
> <archivocaminante at yahoo.com.ar>:
> 
> > Hi Irina, dear all
> >
> > erotic and politics... intensive connection!
> > I agree with you, the states bores me too about this.
> >
> > what is to "erotize politic" today?
> > what are the connections between body and ideologies
> today?
> > what is the political dimension of the body today?
> >
> > to erotize politic for me is only possible when
> incarnation happens.
> > then you can "feel" the political actions,
> also the enemy ones.
> >
> >
> > what do you think Irina?
> >
> > thank you!
> > eduardo
> >
> >
> >
> > Eduardo Molinari / Archivo Caminante
> > Aramburu 880, Dto.1 (1640) Martínez
> > Provincia de Buenos Aires – Argentina
> > 0541 1 47 98 48 35
> >
> >
> > --- El jue 22-may-08, Irina Contreras
> <poopstarr at yahoo.com> escribió:
> >
> > > De: Irina Contreras <poopstarr at yahoo.com>
> > > Asunto: Re: [-empyre-] to brazil with love
> > > Para: "soft_skinned_space"
> <empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
> > > Fecha: jueves, 22 de mayo de 2008, 6:59 pm
> > > hi everyone,
> > > my name is Irina Contreras....
> > > just wanting to drop in finally and try to tune
> in more....
> > > excited about where this is going....i have to
> say i was
> > > finding some of the other conversation to be
> losing me for
> > > some reason...maybe its just the nature of the
> internet...
> > > im really intrigued by this booing that took
> place at the
> > > sexual diversity screening...what happened if i
> can ask?
> > > im also interested and wondering about an
> expansion on the
> > > ideas of microerotic and the integration of
> erotic into
> > > political issues.
> > > It seems funny because queerness and sex has been
> > > inevitably politicized as i see it.
> > > but i also think that the way it is often
> currently done in
> > > the states bores me a bit....it feels very
> limited to me
> > > racially especially.
> > > alright, im done....
> > > also, are you active with the icarus project
> discussions?
> > > Abrazos,
> > > Irina
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Thu, 5/22/08, brian whitener
> > > <iwaslike at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: brian whitener
> <iwaslike at hotmail.com>
> > > > Subject: [-empyre-] to brazil with love
> > > > To: empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au
> > > > Date: Thursday, May 22, 2008, 6:53 AM
> > > > hi all,
> > > >
> > > > sorry for the absence. internet access has
> been a bit
> > > > difficult this last days.
> > > >
> > > > these are a few questions for hilan and
> fabiane: what
> > > does
> > > > it mean to work in an errorist manner?can
> you send
> > > examples
> > > > from the handbook of esquizotrans
> pornography?what is
> > > the
> > > > 'esquizerda' (the esquizoleft) ?what
> does the
> > > > organization of trans or esquizoleft
> community look
> > > like in
> > > > brasil?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Fabiane Borges (BR) is a writer and media
> and
> > > communication
> > > > activistwho works with genders,
> transgenders, and
> > > > technology. She has abackground in squat art
> and
> > > social
> > > > movements, such as those involvingwhores,
> women,
> > > low-tech
> > > > media, indigenous groups, and
> theanti-psychiatry
> > > movement
> > > > [luta antimanicomial]. She
> enjoysesquizoanalysis and
> > > > usually uses the name
> > > > Cassandras.http://cassandras.multiply.com.
> Hilan
> > > Bensusan
> > > > (BR) inspects singularities (like poetry
> > > writers,people
> > > > coming out of the prisons), lectures
> philosophy in
> > > > theUniversity ofBrasilia and writes
> manifestoes.
> > > > http://www.unb.br/ih/fil/hilanb 
> Esquizotrans – a
> > > gang of
> > > > our shifting slices Esquizotrans is an
> assembly of
> > > desires
> > > > focused on transgressing anddiluting
> borders. We
> > > experiment
> > > > with writing, filming, performing inorder to
> blur both
> > > > gender and genre borders. We do it in an
> > > erroristmanner (as
> > > > hangovers of the Errorist International). In
> 2007 we
> > > were
> > > > booed in a sexual diversity film festival in
> > > Brazilafter
> > > > screening our Mulher-Bicha (Female Fag).
> Since 2006 we
> > > > produceshort films accompanied with small
> performances
> > > that
> > > > attempt tochannel erotic energy into
> politics while
> > > exposing
> > > > the politicalundertone of the microerotic.
> We maintain
> > > a
> > > > column in the MondeDiplomatique, Brazil,
> were we
> > > dilute the
> > > > principles of column-writing,celebrate both
> the
> > > transsexual
> > > > and the transgender takes on whateveris
> cyberpolitical
> > > and
> > > > formulate what we call the
> 'esquizerda'
> > > > (theesquizoleft) – that would attempt to
> extract
> > > > subversive force from themultiplication of
> exception,
> > > > deviation and error. Our current
> projectsinvolve short
> > > > films of urban intervention in several
> towns,
> > > > writingperformances where our convulsive
> collective
> > > writing
> > > > is shown in theopen and the publication of
> our
> > > handbook of
> > > > esquizotrans pornography. Our recent
> > > > site:http://esquizotrans.wordpress.com enjoy
> some of
> > > our
> > > >
> > > movies:
> >
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnRMbQQM2J0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZyL7pWfdG4
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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