[-empyre-] to answer Yves Gufflet

Tue Nov 4 12:31:19 EST 2008

Hi Yves

A senior tutor teaches more than a lecturer...?!
Armstrong has an idea that since 911 many of us need to understand how the Arabic world is informed by the nature of Muhummad who was formed by the Arabic world of the year 6oo(ish). She looks at his history and traditions that come from lack of resources and the resulting aggression needed to survive. Her talk on ted.com made me pick up the book. 

http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/karen_armstrong_makes_her_ted_prize_wish_the_charter_for_compassion.html 

Watching it will tie belief to a behaviour and meaning of love

Enjoy

Judy

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Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 11:47:48 +1300
From: simon <swht at clear.net.nz>
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'Compassion- for things I'll never know'

- David Byrne, [from the album /Everything that Happens will Happen Today/]

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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:30:14 +0100
From: Yves Gufflet <yves.gufflet at free.fr>
Subject: Re: [-empyre-] just a litte addition
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what does mean senior tutor ?
(The rest was very interesting. What did you learn from Muhammad : a 
prophet of our time ? Why should he be ?)
Thanks in advance for your answer.

Best,

Yves Gufflet

Judy Cockeram a écrit :
> Hi all
>
> As a lurker on a discussion list about love it feels a little strange
> stepping forward into this light but too many little bells are ringing
> as I read the thoughts and make too many connections into my own
> experiences. Please consider this dust to be simply wiped away.
>
> Having just finished 'Muhammad : a prophet for our time' by Karen
> Armstrong I am struck by the notion of love and surrender together -as
> Islam means surrender and that the last time I was in a philosophical
> discussion about love was with a group of 17-20 year old students of
> architecture in the north west of Pakistan, on a Winter's frosty night
> around a campfire. They of course understood the physical nature of
> desire and restraint but they also enlightened me by their poetic and
> uncomplicated joy in a happy anticipation. Ah the positive and less
> cynical approach - I miss it daily.
>
> As a non phustu speaker I listened to the poems as a musical addition to
> a dark night; others then translated but in that rendering the poet
> observed the ideals now were explained into a chair with its back leg
> removed. 
> So it is from the part of the world where the media wish us to believe
> terrorism is spawned I take a metaphor for love - that toppling seat we
> try to sit on, attempting to balance: only when we relax and are still
> does the chair return, ...able, ...again, in the relationship to the
> sitter perform the act it was meant for. 
>
> So perhaps Salam is the way to end- indeed I wish you peace as we
> consider the complicated colour that love is to our world of deity and
> 17 year old. There is much to unpack. 
>
>
>
>
>
> Judy Cockeram
>
> Senior tutor 
> The School of Architecture and Planning  
> University of Auckland 
>
> New Zealand 
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Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 16:56:31 -0400
From: Timothy Murray <tcm1 at cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: [-empyre-] forward from Simon Taylor
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To smile at a Crocodile:

A love is a brick. Is a concept. (Massumi) A concept is the love of the
love. As in: In love with love. Absolutely (no reification being thereby
implied).

The style of being of a love. (Levy Bryant) Where style is an individual
form of originality. (Baudelaire) The love is the concept as it loves,
as in to love. A pure infinitive event, beyond 'anthropological
predicates' and before any actual 'love.' (Deleuze) The concept being an
ontological before it is an epistemological category. (Also Bryant)

The being of being in love being set in motion. So differing internally,
qualitative and stylistically. Moving infinitely. (Deleuze) As we
gathered. (Badiou) For however long it last. Rather, endure. Feeble and
strong. (Kristeva)

And having found it what do we do with it? but repeat it in the terms in
which it is actualised, bio-logic-mechanic-ally. Or take a cutting. A
shortcut. And a silhouette. Hard graft. And topology.

And in that second thought sort of repeat who flips all the bits of love
to chance? throws up each little die? of every little death? (Nietzsche.
Or Mallarme. Some symbolist, at least?)

What then if love is a brick and we make the wall suggested
geographically (albeit it would be clearer as a dry-stone construction.
Better whetted. Sharper on the cut.)? In what is love then contained?
and by what entrained? but its negative.

And how long must the mere (representational) repetition stay up
(/durer/), surely not eternally! Internally?

"Be Hence Ghost of Internal Redcurrants!"

Love is alone in excluding everything but the empirical delusion of
anthropological predicates. And in that transcendental bind, it may find
itself immured. That is, doubled. In a pincer movement. (Deleuze & Guattari)

The essential, however, before love is just loved, is that it move. And
in moving not be not love.

Love,

Simon Taylor

www.squarewhiteworld.com

-- 
Timothy Murray
Director, Society for the Humanities
http://www.arts.cornell.edu/sochum/
Curator, The Rose Goldsen Archive of New Media Art, Cornell Library
http://goldsen.library.cornell.edu
Professor of Comparative Literature and English
A. D. White House
Cornell University
Ithaca, New York 14853

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