[-empyre-] Poetry and/or poetic

[Clothieri]

About what Sally Jane said,

"interested in the non-binaries. the unfathomable in-betweens. including
those perversely spawned by digital systems. can't sets of relations be
hypothetical/ ephemeral constructs that allow us to conjecture, without
having to smack of finitude forever after?"

And:

On 12/3/09 2:57 AM, "davin heckman" <davinheckman at gmail.com> wrote:

> But where things get exciting is when someone figures out how
> to make a machine do something it isn't supposed to do.  Hackers have
> been doing this with computers.  But poets have been doing this to
> language for a lot longer.  And when I see a poet try to test their
> are on a machine which is ruled by numbers...  it's impressive.
> Especially if they can make the language of the machine into the
> language of the human.  (And, those two languages are a bit different
> in their theory, origin, evolution, and daily use).


I thought I would add to this conversation some of the output from haiku
robots, which is showing now. The numbers below are mine but the words are a
result of the robots and the computer interacting. Once everything is
switched on, their is no further human involvement except reading the output
afterwards and picking bunches of words.

1. 
red
sigh
is 
shy
 
 
2. 
knit
bawdy
bike
epic
 
 
3. 
no
hash
blimp
end
fly
 
our
joys
oxide
ha
 
6.
god
hugs
yes
fern
 
 
7. 
commas
leash
nails
 
sos
 
 
10. 
no
lag
chess
 
pi
rips
like
jaded
held
set

I liked the recent comment on the list questioning trying to define e-poetry
when artists are involved in a process of erasure in definitions, by
producing works that are in tension with boundaries.

Incidentally it took six days of exhibition to get a partial English
sentence: 'or deem to ask'. There is no sentence structure in the code for
the robots or the software of the customised spell checker.

One of the contexts for this project is the notion that language arises
naturally from information embedded in structures.

Click through links at ianclothier.com, to see an image of the work and some
video. This project is also a collaboration with Andrew Hornblow and Julian
Priest.

Eventually more poems will be added to the site.

Ian Clothier   


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