[-empyre-] art and ethics

Timothy Murray tcm1 at cornell.edu
Sat Jan 23 03:26:18 EST 2010


>Nick, could you explain your reference to the recent Supreme Court 
>ruling to our -empyre- community, since a major proportion of our 
>-empyreans- live outside the US?  I'm also wondering why you think 
>that a ruling regarding political lobbying (if this is what you're 
>referencing) would unleash a genre of corporatist art.

Thanks so much.

Tim

>international participants...but how to de-link these states seems 
>impenetrable - like the recent Supreme Court ruling that will 
>certainly unleash a whole new genre of freely circulating 
>corporatist art, no?
>
>
>nick
>
>
>
>
>From: Johanna Drucker <drucker at gseis.ucla.edu>
>To: jhaber at haberarts.com; soft_skinned_space <empyre at gamera.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
>Sent: Mon, January 11, 2010 8:12:46 PM
>Subject: Re: [-empyre-] empyre Digest, Vol 62, Issue 13
>
>John,
>
>Much different. I agree.
>
>I do want to make a space for art that is not tasked with being the 
>moral conscience of the culture too.
>
>Johanna
>
>On Jan 11, 2010, at 4:09 PM, John Haber wrote:
>
>>  The analogy to rebranding is very interesting indeed, in an excellent
>>  post.  Let me ask more about it, though.  Now, to me it's only an
>>  analogy, and of course whatever venting we may wish to have about
>>  torture and Israeli policy aren't instantly illuminating regarding art
>>  except as a kind of red flag.  (Hey, there's injustice in the 
>>  world, so
>>  don't let it happen in this realm.)  Indeed, it could actually 
>>  disguise
>>  the problem, by suggesting distinct realms after all, which the whole
>>  problematic of complicity in art is supposed to question.  Thus, my
>>  question would be this:  if the political analogy is silence, then 
>>  does
>>  that open possibilities for art, in which making visible is part of 
>>  the
>>  game?  Now, I realize that acknowledging something, as argued well,
>>  doesn't make it go away.  But it's still different from silence.
>>
>>  John
>>  _______________________________________________
>>  empyre forum
>>  <mailto:empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au>empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au
>>  <http://www.subtle.net/empyre>http://www.subtle.net/empyre
>
>_______________________________________________
>empyre forum
><mailto:empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au>empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au
><http://www.subtle.net/empyre>http://www.subtle.net/empyre
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>empyre forum
>empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au
>http://www.subtle.net/empyre


-- 
Timothy Murray
Director, Society for the Humanities
http://www.arts.cornell.edu/sochum/
Curator, The Rose Goldsen Archive of New Media Art, Cornell Library
http://goldsen.library.cornell.edu
Professor of Comparative Literature and English
A. D. White House
Cornell University
Ithaca, New York 14853


More information about the empyre mailing list