[-empyre-] art and ethics

[Gerry Coulter]

Don't worry Nick, most of what will come of it wil lsimply be more indifference from the mass of Americans

best

gerry
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From: empyre-bounces at gamera.cofa.unsw.edu.au [empyre-bounces at gamera.cofa.unsw.edu.au] On Behalf Of Nicholas Ruiz III [editor at intertheory.org]
Sent: January 22, 2010 10:51 AM
To: soft_skinned_space
Subject: [-empyre-] art and ethics

...but how to de-link these states seems impenetrable - like the recent Supreme Court ruling that will certainly unleash a whole new genre of freely circulating corporatist art, no?

nick


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From: Johanna Drucker <drucker at gseis.ucla.edu>
To: jhaber at haberarts.com; soft_skinned_space <empyre at gamera.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
Sent: Mon, January 11, 2010 8:12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [-empyre-] empyre Digest, Vol 62, Issue 13

John,

Much different. I agree.

I do want to make a space for art that is not tasked with being the
moral conscience of the culture too.

Johanna

On Jan 11, 2010, at 4:09 PM, John Haber wrote:

> The analogy to rebranding is very interesting indeed, in an excellent
> post.  Let me ask more about it, though.  Now, to me it's only an
> analogy, and of course whatever venting we may wish to have about
> torture and Israeli policy aren't instantly illuminating regarding art
> except as a kind of red flag.  (Hey, there's injustice in the
> world, so
> don't let it happen in this realm.)  Indeed, it could actually
> disguise
> the problem, by suggesting distinct realms after all, which the whole
> problematic of complicity in art is supposed to question.  Thus, my
> question would be this:  if the political analogy is silence, then
> does
> that open possibilities for art, in which making visible is part of
> the
> game?  Now, I realize that acknowledging something, as argued well,
> doesn't make it go away.  But it's still different from silence.
>
> John
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