[-empyre-] conditionaldesign.org/manifesto/

[Yann Le Guennec]

Hello,

Some more questions about http://www.conditionaldesign.org/manifesto/

"Our work focuses on processes rather than products: things that adapt 
to their environment, emphasize change and show difference."

I understand, when you use the expression "rather than" that you make a 
strong difference, a frontier 'a priori' between a process and a 
product. What is the the nature of this frontier? And in your approach, 
how do you see for example a "service": as a process or as a product?

If by "product", you mean an object, a kind of static thing in a 
structure, then, from a systems thinking approach, saying that "The 
process is the product." ... is just a confusion between what is static 
and what is dynamic in your systems.



Reas / Reas.com a écrit :
> Hello,
> 
> This is my first post on the list. I want to first thank Susanne for the 
> introduction and invitation to discuss the topic.
> 
> I wasn't aware of Luna and Edo's work and their Conditional Design 
> Manifesto until today. Now, I'm an enthusiastic fan after following the 
> link from their bios: http://www.conditionaldesign.org/manifesto/
> 
> I'd like to question them about the emphasis on Logic in the manifesto.
> 
> In discussing Process in a broad sense, I see the balance between Logic 
> and the opposite of Logic as the interesting component. Yet, the 
> manifesto seems to deny everything except the purely rational? This 
> ignores so much potential. Does intuition and variation only come 
> through the Input? What am I missing?
> 
> Casey
> 
> 
> On May 13, 2010, at 9:30 AM, susanne jaschko wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> today we welcome some more invited guests to our discussion that is 
>> slowly evolving. With Luna Maurer, Aymeric Mansoux, Casey E.B. Reas 
>> and Isabelle Jenniches we asked a number of artists participating in 
>> the exhibition Process as Paradigm to join the debate. Edo Paulus 
>> works together with Luna Maurer as Conditional Design. And Raquel 
>> Renno is currently collaborating with LABoral and the UOC - University 
>> of Cataluyna to set up a blog that will also feature the exhibition.
>>
>> Here are some brief biographical notes of our new guests. Please 
>> excuse if they are not complete -- we wanted to focus on their 
>> (artistic) practice.
>> -----------------------------------------------
>> Luna Maurer
>> Trained as a graphic designer, Luna Maurer works as an independent 
>> designer in the field of interaction and media design in Amsterdam. 
>> Her interests lie in technological developments that transform our 
>> media into fluid digital environments, and finding design solutions 
>> for it. Central to the work of Luna Maurer is the theme of 'control'. 
>> This leads to design methods in which
>> designing the environments for visualisation or creation of content is 
>> more important than designing the end product.
>> http://www.poly-luna.com
>> http://www.conditionaldesign.org
>> -----------------------------------------------
>> Aymeric Mansoux
>> Aymeric Mansoux and Marloes de Valk are an artist duo whose main 
>> project has been Metabiosis (2006-2008), a series of projects 
>> investigating narration through digital processes and machine theatre. 
>> Anthropomorphism is used to create a tension between fantasies about 
>> computers and artificial life, and the fact that these are simply 
>> projections of our ideas and thoughts onto objects.
>> http://pzwart.wdka.nl/networked-media/2010/01/02/aymeric-mansoux/
>> -----------------------------------------------
>> C.E.B. Reas focuses on defining processes and translating them into 
>> images. In 2001 Reas initiated Processing.org with Ben Fry. Processing 
>> is an open source programming language and environment for creating 
>> images, animation, and interaction. He is a professor in the 
>> department of Design Media Arts at the University of California, Los 
>> Angeles.
>> http://reas.com
>> -----------------------------------------------
>> Isabelle Jenniches
>> In her studio practice she appropriates online cameras(webcams) to 
>> create monumental composite images.
>> http://www.9nerds.com/isabelle
>> -----------------------------------------------
>> Edo Paulus
>> Edo Paulus is specialised in the use of generative processes for the 
>> creation of sound-installations, automatic music-generating software, 
>> live music performances and (interactive) music for imagery (website / 
>> computer game / film). Currently, he is  incorporating the natural 
>> dynamics of human behavior into processes. In 2008 Edo has joined with 
>> Luna Maurer, Roel Wouters and Jonathan Puckey to write the Conditional 
>> Design Manifesto. It promotes the idea of designing conditions rather 
>> than end results.
>> http://www.eude.nl
>> http://www.conditionaldesign.org
>> -----------------------------------------------
>> Raquel Renno
>> She is consultant teacher at Art and Technology courses at UOC 
>> (Universitat Oberta de Catalunya), researcher at CNPQ and also member 
>> of art group in digital art research at ZZZINC (Barcelona, Spain). She 
>> has experience in communication, focusing on digital arts and urban 
>> spaces, acting on the following subjects: communication, urban spaces, 
>> digital culture, visual arts and
>> advertising.
>> http://www.raquelrenno.com
>>
>> Greetings,
>> Susanne
>> -- 
>> susanne jaschko
>> www.sujaschko.de
>>
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