[-empyre-] Process as paradigm

Eileen Reynolds (Asst Prof) EReynolds at ntu.edu.sg
Sat May 22 13:18:04 EST 2010


Hi Erika,

The image as output seems to me the most active agent because it is out in the world communicating.   However, if one is more interested in the the data set being "algorithmicly" processed through a computer, then why waste the paper to create an image that is non active at the end?  If the production of the image is just a remnant and record of the computer's processing, then no, it is not an active agent, and only proof of the actively processing computer and its ability to do something.

My other thought is the old classic - "the computer is just a tool".   And since we place these tools on such a high pedestal, perhaps the Louvre should instead display the paint brush that Leonardo used to paint the Mona Lisa rather than just the 30 × 20 inch remnant of the pigmented data set that he "algorithmicly" processed through the bristles. But I'm not too certain that would interest very many.

-Eileen




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From: empyre-bounces at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au [empyre-bounces at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au] On Behalf Of Erika Jean Lincoln [fur_princess at yahoo.ca]
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 11:38 PM
To: soft_skinned_space
Subject: Re: [-empyre-] Process as paradigm

Hi Maria, Yann,
Isn't it more precise to say that the data set of the digital image is "algorithmicly" processed through an computer which leads to a different data set which is then represented as an image?

To me the image is not the active agent.
Thoughts?

Erika Lincoln
Electronic Media Artist
Winnipeg/Manitoba/Canada
http://www.lincolnlab.net


--- On Thu, 5/20/10, Maria Verstappen <notnot at xs4all.nl> wrote:

> From: Maria Verstappen <notnot at xs4all.nl>
> Subject: Re: [-empyre-] Process as paradigm
> To: "soft_skinned_space" <empyre at gamera.cofa.unsw.edu.au>, "Yann Le Guennec" <y at x-arn.org>
> Received: Thursday, May 20, 2010, 11:37 AM
> Dear Yann,
> In the context of this exhibition the notion of "generative
> image" can be taken quite literal as a still image that
> generates the next image in real time. Subsequently this new
> image forms the basis for the next image, etcetera. In case
> of a screen based work, the viewer experiences this ongoing
> sequence as a dynamic animation.
> Maria
>
> On May 19, 2010, at 10:09 PM, Yann Le Guennec wrote:
>
> > Hello dear Empyreans,
> >
> > systems are open;
> > entropy is a mistake;
> > boundaries are in the mind (of the 'modelizer'=
> someone making a model);
> > every process is part of n systems;
> > quantum physics is a biface (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biface);
> > we build tools we need, to prove what we think;
> > we use tools someone built (some day), to prove what
> we thought (some day);
> >
> > but ... i would still like to know what is this: a
> 'generative image';
> >
> > http://www.laboralcentrodearte.org/en/714-catalogue
> (PDF p: 55)
> >
> > Do you mean a picture can generate something, or, an
> image is necessarily a mind projection ? in the future
> (unforeseen) ?
> >
> >
> > best,
> > yann
> >
> >
> >
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