[-empyre-] Process as paradigm - the generative image

[Yann Le Guennec]

hello,

Thanks for your replies!

Like Erika, and seen from the second principle of thermodynamic point of 
view (entropy), i think a picture in itself cannot be generative for 
itself, the program/software is. You have to consider 
simulacra/simulation (Baudrillard) and the world genesis of the picture 
(which is the human in some monotheist religion) in order to think, 
and/or believe that a picture can generate itself, and/or can be an 
agent in its self-regeneration.

+
--y


Eileen Reynolds (Asst Prof) a écrit :
> Hi Erika,
> 
> The image as output seems to me the most active agent because it is
> out in the world communicating.   However, if one is more interested
> in the the data set being "algorithmicly" processed through a
> computer, then why waste the paper to create an image that is non
> active at the end?  If the production of the image is just a remnant
> and record of the computer's processing, then no, it is not an active
> agent, and only proof of the actively processing computer and its
> ability to do something.
> 
> My other thought is the old classic - "the computer is just a tool".
> And since we place these tools on such a high pedestal, perhaps the
> Louvre should instead display the paint brush that Leonardo used to
> paint the Mona Lisa rather than just the 30 × 20 inch remnant of the
> pigmented data set that he "algorithmicly" processed through the
> bristles. But I'm not too certain that would interest very many.
> 
> -Eileen
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________________ From:
> empyre-bounces at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au
> [empyre-bounces at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au] On Behalf Of Erika Jean
> Lincoln [fur_princess at yahoo.ca] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 11:38 PM 
> To: soft_skinned_space Subject: Re: [-empyre-] Process as paradigm
> 
> Hi Maria, Yann, Isn't it more precise to say that the data set of the
> digital image is "algorithmicly" processed through an computer which
> leads to a different data set which is then represented as an image?
> 
> To me the image is not the active agent. Thoughts?
> 
> Erika Lincoln Electronic Media Artist Winnipeg/Manitoba/Canada 
> http://www.lincolnlab.net
> 
> 
> --- On Thu, 5/20/10, Maria Verstappen <notnot at xs4all.nl> wrote:
> 
>> From: Maria Verstappen <notnot at xs4all.nl> Subject: Re: [-empyre-]
>> Process as paradigm To: "soft_skinned_space"
>> <empyre at gamera.cofa.unsw.edu.au>, "Yann Le Guennec" <y at x-arn.org> 
>> Received: Thursday, May 20, 2010, 11:37 AM Dear Yann, In the
>> context of this exhibition the notion of "generative image" can be
>> taken quite literal as a still image that generates the next image
>> in real time. Subsequently this new image forms the basis for the
>> next image, etcetera. In case of a screen based work, the viewer
>> experiences this ongoing sequence as a dynamic animation. Maria
>> 
>> On May 19, 2010, at 10:09 PM, Yann Le Guennec wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello dear Empyreans,
>>> 
>>> systems are open; entropy is a mistake; boundaries are in the
>>> mind (of the 'modelizer'=
>> someone making a model);
>>> every process is part of n systems; quantum physics is a biface
>>> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biface); we build tools we need, to
>>> prove what we think; we use tools someone built (some day), to
>>> prove what
>> we thought (some day);
>>> but ... i would still like to know what is this: a
>> 'generative image';
>>> http://www.laboralcentrodearte.org/en/714-catalogue
>> (PDF p: 55)
>>> Do you mean a picture can generate something, or, an
>> image is necessarily a mind projection ? in the future (unforeseen)
>> ?
>>> 
>>> best, yann
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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