[-empyre-] Sense as space

[aslemeur at free.fr]

hello !

Could these other attemps help to define any direction/method ?

http://sensuousknowledge.org/

http://david.elbaz3.free.fr/vulgarisation/documents/Perceptions_Art_Science.pdf

Best regards,

Anne-Sarah
Paris
http://aslemeur.free.fr
http://aslemeur.free.fr/projets/outre_r_eng.htm

Selon xéna lee <pirolambita at yahoo.com>:

> Dear Alexander,
>
> I am catching up with some discussions on this forum, and I would like to
> thank you for your input, which has been very thoughtful and helpful
> throughout.  You also write beautifully.  The 'sense' in the direction
> sense that you speak of, is what drives Lorna and I in our vision for what
> comes after the colloquium.  Indeed, the surface meanings of the term might
> be personified in us: Lorna is the sensible theorist concerned about the
> disconnect of the field from practitioners, and I am the crazy artist who is
> pure emotion and senses but paradoxically also an academic in the
> sciences....  So is the goal to hold a colloquium or a series of colloquia
> of incidental comings together of the sense and the senses?  That, we feel,
> would be limiting.  There is a whole that is greater than its parts, and
> that might comprise the totality of perception that comes about from the
> input of the senses and sense (anyone familiar with the brain sciences will
> know
>  exactly what I am talking about).  From this whole then arises an emergent
> property that is a teleological 'sense', as you say, which is bigger than any
> of its former parts, for it takes on another dimension.  In this manner, the
> 'sense' that we speak of does not end with the most immediate meanings, or
> the immediate events, and I am grateful to you for pointing this out.
>
> Best,
> Bandy
>
>
> --- On Sun, 10/24/10, Alexander Wilson <01ek at parabolikguerilla.com> wrote:
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> From: Alexander Wilson <01ek at parabolikguerilla.com>
> Subject: [-empyre-]  Sense as space
> To: empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au
> Date: Sunday, October 24, 2010, 7:01 PM
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> Hello Empyrecists, 
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> Thanks Renate for introducing me to the list. Though I have not yet posted, I
> have been following the discussions for a couple of weeks now. 
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> I'd like to write down a few thoughts, post Making Sense Colloquium, and hope
> they may spark some new tangent discussions. 
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> A lot of my theatre and art work has dealt with the idea that sense as in
> meaning and sense as in sensation, is inherently tied to a third homonym, at
> least with the french word "sens" : sense as direction or orientation. This
> lead me to conceptualize sense as space, space which is not only physical and
> through which our bodies move, but a heterogeneous space that also includes
> psychological space, that is, spaces through which our minds move. Sense as
> meaning and sense as sensation are etymologically derived from the idea of
> earlier words meaning "to find ones way" or "to orient oneself" (see proto
> indo-european base *sent-, which means "to go"). So spatiality is extremely
> important if we want to look at sense holistically. 
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> If both are minds and our body are in sense, that is, if they orient
> themselves within sense in a holistic manner, then we must think of the mind
> and body as one entity. I have often used the term “topological body” to
> refer to this, though it is somewhat misleading. The idea comes from the
> topology of non-orientable forms in topology, like the mobeius strip and the
> klein bottle, the definitions of which give us a way of thinking how the
> outside, physical world, could be continuous to the internal mental world. If
> one were to stand on a gaint klein bottle's surface, one might get the
> impression that the ground on which he stands has an other side, below his
> feet, as it were, when in fact this “other side” is continuous to the
> “side” he is standing on : the klein bottle only has one side. Likewise,
> the topological body only has one side. The inside mental space of the subjet
> extends continuously into the physical world outside. The topological
>  body is thus both mind and body. 
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> In my work with Parabolik Guerilla Theatre, I have often treated the question
> of the difference between “having sense”, that is, merely being
> determined by the space in which the topological body is embeded, and
> “making sense”, that is actively participating in the constant
> reorganization of that space. Merleau-Ponty wrote about the difference
> between parole parlée and parole parlante in this way.  It is possible to
> “use” language in a non creative way, whereas it is also possible to
> create through language, to reveal through language something other than what
> a word means on a merely semiotic level. This creative use of language is
> poïesis. But this distinction between having sense and making sense extends
> to areas which we don’t usually call language : gestures also adhere to
> this principle. The body is constantly involved in automatic gestures, it
> relies on innumerable unconscious gestures that “make” no sense but
> "have" sense,
>  that is, the body is on constantly decoding sense which is already there,
> inscribed in the repetitive processes which make up our present, inherited
> from the past. However, there are ways in which the body can attempt to
> become poïetic, and take part in new encodings of sense, create new
> propagating processes, revealing new meanings, new ways to move, new ways to
> interact with the world (or be the world). 
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> In our practice with Parabolik Guerilla Theatre, Japanese Butoh has been a
> huge inspiration, and from the very beginning was part of our physical
> training regimen. Butoh deals with exactly this idea of transcending the
> usual gestural and postural automatisms that are only decodings of sense. It
> is and active attempt to not be determined by sense, but actually take part
> in producing it. The idea of a topological body and of sense as space also
> ties in with butoh’s sense of the body and space, where the exterior and
> interior are incessantly forced to exchange places. A common interpretation
> of butoh is that in it’s practice, the body no longer moves through space
> but that the reverse is happening, the space moves through the body. 
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> I could go on and on about these ideas but I’m already rambling. Renate
> said at Making Sense colloquium to try to keep our posts short, so I’ll
> shut-up for now... 
>
> thanks,alexander wilson
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> Alexander Wilson
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