[-empyre-] vigilar y castigar

jcu jcu at execulink.com
Mon Jan 24 02:35:08 EST 2011


Hello,

You wrote:
> A revolution against the noosphere would need some other place place  
> of promised jouissance


What a beautiful phrase.

Perhaps it indicates a phase of human evolution that we can't yet  
determine,
a progression to some form of telepathy, the precursor evidenced by our
evolving technology.

At the risk of sounding holier than thou, consider the Dalai Lama's  
words:
"No matter how new a face or how different the dress, and behaviour,  
there is
no significant division between us and other people ... Ultimately,  
humanity is one."
Perhaps we are currently living through the voyeuristic stage of that  
realization,
historically similar to the middle ages in our realization of the  
notion that we are
all connected. A progression along the spiritual  continuum towards  
our own
collective enlightenment?

That's how I've always thought of cell phones, as a sign post pointing  
us towards
the next stage in our human development of interconnectedness.

joan

On 23-Jan-11, at 3:32 AM, Antonas Office wrote:

> Nicky,
> We cannot stop what is done through a moral command. We can only  
> think what is going on and try to invest it with new meaning. A  
> revolution against the noosphere would need some other place of  
> promised jouissance not a restriction.
>


> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 22, 2011, at 18:31, Nicky Donald <nicky.donald at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
>
>> I love that.
>>
>> At Glastonbury a couple of years ago I saw an intelligent-looking
>> youth speaking on his phone thus: "Where are you? I'm just coming  
>> into
>> a big field full of flags." Right next to him was a huge signpost,
>> with arrows to all parts of the site.
>>
>> I also spoke to an 80-year-old grandmother about the network native
>> youth. I put it to her that these people would never be lost or  
>> indeed
>> alone; how would that change childhood? She replied that the mobile
>> phone was an umbilical cord you couldn't cut, and was lumbering us
>> with a generation of utterly useless nitwits.
>>
>> Please stop filming yourselves; the telly was bad enough. The
>> netopticon/spider is only threatening our intelligence. Just stop
>> watching and stop posting content.
>>
>> I know because I spent 2 years online 24 hours a day working on
>> construction projects across the world. Europe is in your case at 6
>> am, the UK by 8, New York by 1pm, Vegas by 4pm, Australia at 10pm and
>> China about midnight. God knows what day they're on and when the
>> consignments are getting there. There are thousands, possibly tens of
>> thousands of people ageing at 10 times normal speed because they're  
>> in
>> the noosphere, the flow of information greasing perceived time.
>>
>> I need to lie down now. Oh, I am lying down...
>>
>> NickyD
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 22 January 2011 12:06, ajaco c/o bid <ajaco at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>>> Hi Jon & Alison
>>>
>>> Sorry to be a bit incomprehensible, but I can add the following  
>>> quotes to
>>> clarify a bit: [*]
>>>
>>> "Modern life appears as a drowning man filming itself in its dead
>>> struggle, the sight of  a drowning man filming his own drowning in a
>>> world which as a whole is drowning is extremely absurd, there are   
>>> no
>>> spectators to watch left. It is as if the act of filming replaces  
>>> life
>>> itself . The residual of life is more life than life itself .  This
>>> scenery is really a last station, the complete artistically   
>>> epigraphical
>>> swan song of mankind, filmed on a cell-phone by a  drowning man."
>>>
>>> &
>>>
>>> "The act of seeing (active) gradually changing in the act of looking
>>> (passive) is exactly what modern global capitalism is doing with   
>>> human
>>> mankind. By replacing the means to create a life (rurality,   
>>> agriculture,
>>> self protecting, autocratic societies) with the means to earn a  
>>> life(
>>> industries, labor, rent, mortgage, salary, funeral insurance) the  
>>> accent
>>> slowly drifts from the active sense to the  passive sense.  
>>> Exemplified by
>>> the way Internet developed  from a  research instrument to an
>>> entertainment device. In this process which lasted a surprisingly  
>>> short
>>> term of about ten years, the presence of  the web turned from a  
>>> small
>>> interesting peer to peer group to a huge  beast of millenarian
>>> proportions. The monster as the natural companion  of a gigantic
>>> destroyer. The spider’s web is an-eying the world , the  eye lost  
>>> its
>>> vision and is multiplied inwardly on a enormous scale ,  blinded  
>>> by its
>>> own image like the drowning men filming its own  drowning in a  
>>> drowning
>>> world."
>>>
>>> [*] from:
>>>
>>> Creative insurgency opposes established cultural domination - A.  
>>> Andreas 2007
>>>
>>> http://nictoglobe.com/new/query2.html?d=articles&f=ci
>>>
>>>> Hi Simon and Andreas
>>>>
>>>> simon said:
>>>>> Sometimes a cinema is just a cinema.
>>>> Yes you're right sometimes a cinema is indeed just a cinema,  
>>>> although
>>>> these days most are fitted with night vision cameras.
>>>>
>>>> andreas said:
>>>>> No!, it is just another subversion of the mighty new media mob,
>>>>> disguised as political correct, contemporary popular cultural  
>>>>> analysis,
>>>>> not properly making the distinction between 'art' and media.
>>>>> Forget those empty words of McLuhan!
>>>>> "The Medium is Not  the Message!"
>>>> Could you say a bit more about what you mean here?
>>>>
>>>> thanks and best wishes,
>>>>
>>>> Jon & Alison
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Cheers
>>
>> Nicky Donald
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