[-empyre-] laws, outlaws & golden pirates

[magnus lawrie]

Hello again,

There is already much to think about...

On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 12:32:33PM +0200, shu lea cheang wrote:
> following the thread -
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>>>>> let's start again from the beginning, how do you think that your  
>>>>> work drives innovation? how can we reclaim creativity through  
>>>>> piracy? isn't that we are just artists not free to express  
>>>>> ourself because of copyright?

>>>>> back to the strategies, maybe we should think about a Union of  
>>>>> Pirates, which mutually can help singular cases, i mean for  
>>>>> pirates who may get sued, the union may provide money backup for  
>>>>> legal costs and a crew of lawyers, and why not, an insurance, if  
>>>>> each pirate pay a little fee of subscription for being covered  
>>>>> and being part of the union, i'm sure the money will be enough to 
>>>>> face this difficult time. and in the meanwhile a class action can 
>>>>> stress for innovative legislation change for reclaiming rights of 
>>>>> fair use for digital content.
>
> i dont know if this is the right occasion to distinguish artistic  
> endeavour and the common practiced
> piracy act which indeed has become an industry parallel to the online  
> digital content devlopment.

Yes, there is a kind of feedback happening. For example, Kinect
hacking is recognized by Microsoft to the point that it surely enters into
the complany's future business plan. Some pirate practices are
normalized. Is that a success?
>
> As an artist, i also dont know if i can be the flag waving union member 
> of the Pirate Union.

I'm in sympathy with this concern. From adopting (or accepting) such a
degree of autonomy, I wonder if there are vagrant modes in which we
can usefully engage to reclaim and expand our creative sovereignty?

> For the curatorial texts  of [kop] in 2002, we stated, "Kingdom of  
> Piracy <KOP> is conceived as an online, open work space which explores 
> piracy as the net's  ultimate art form. "
> we could easily get into the discussion of art form, art genre here, and 
> maybe get into
> how our work (of this specific genre) can be marketed or simply  
> unsellable in the current art scene... (well, guess someone is still  
> naming the price.)
>
> Lawsuits are really applicable when they do bring in money or fame (or 
> notority), arent they?

Perhaps vagrant forms are there at the fringes of trade and
contraband?

> As artists deriving concept/content from the 'wealth' of the net, do  
> we/do you set out to trip the troubled water?  or do you accidentally  
> fall into the crack and stumbled? Maybe the question, then, is not "we 
> are just artists not free to express ourself because of copyright', but 
> what considered to be, then, the 'limit' (boundary) how far can you go 
> without getting yourself procecuted? or to choose prosecution and make a 
> martyr or a hero of yourself. What is the balanced act on this thin rope? 

Yes, especially, as Paolo mentioned, when every bot will search out my
creative incursion, however large or small.

>  My pirate republic work was not realized mainly caused of the opposition 
> from my kop partner, how i could threat/damage public participants of 
> willing confession of 3 strikes. In my current work UKI viral game, we 
> aim to infect a city,
> targeting on googlemap. The game is conceived to mobilze the public, the 
> infection, however,
>  is gestural.
>
> A gestural act as an art form? face2facebook elegantly realized such an 
> act. for me, then, the question is strategy for engaging the public. When 
> facebookers make objection that you
> steal their faces, you also bring up most serious issues of our social 
> network generation.
> Yes, we are now 'willingly' participating in the corporate piracy  
> scheme, contributing to a wealth which could be of any minute deemed  
> 'data trash' in the net's black hole that sucks in all data.
>
> what do you think?

Yes, I think there is a collision happening at certain interfaces, for
example in-between norms and transgressive acts, in-betweem social and
economic relations. I am interested in learning about this in-between,
gestural space.

Best wishes,

Magnus

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