[-empyre-] most influential, most dangerous, most courageous women

Daniella G. Perry dgperry at ucla.edu
Tue Mar 8 04:50:20 EST 2011


I am not sure I understand what you are trying to do here with a "visible
field of women," but it seems *Asociación Madres de Plaza de Mayo &
**Asociación
Civil Abuelas de Plaza de Mayo *should be on this list of courageous women.
And Alicia Partnoy.

Women scientists are also noticeably absent from your list, and there are
politics and cultural politics of control & visibility there as well.
Rosalind Franklin, Lise Meitner and Dian Fossey come to mind.

Thank you,
Daniella


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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 21:42:14 -0800
> From: christina <christina at christinamcphee.net>
> To: soft_skinned_space <empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
> Subject: [-empyre-] most influential, most dangerous, most courageous
>        women
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> Something is happening when a field becomes visible-- a field of women
> in Bahrain countering a police line, a field of women in Ivory Coast
> (shot down, six)--it's impossible not to speak of
> this new site of action. Remember when the only (s)hero job for women
> in the intifada was to get oneself blown up?
>
>
> Two days from now will be March 8-- Internatinal Women's Day
> Centenary  1911-2011.  http://www.internationalwomensday.com/
>
> What happens when finally enough people start to have faith that it
> actually matters for half of humankind to have human rights?
>
> How does this field become visible?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 22:14:05 -0800
> From: christina <christina at christinamcphee.net>
> To: soft_skinned_space <empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
> Subject: Re: [-empyre-] most influential, most dangerous,       most
>        courageous women
> Message-ID: <2EC83D4B-D013-4E8F-9F67-225845EA0CA3 at christinamcphee.net>
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>  'most dangerous' --...  with help from friends--
>
> Vera Zasulich, H?l?ne Cixhous, Patti Smith, Judith Butler
> Amelia Bloomer, Scheherazade, Rosa Robata, Sofia Perovskaya
> Lilith, Hildegard of Bingen, Carolee Schneemann, Adrian Piper
> Cindy Sherman,  Julian of Norwich, bel hooks, Camille Paglia
> Jingyu Xiang,Vivienne Westwood,  Isak Dinesen, Jeanne d'Arc
> Gertrude Stein, Duygy Asena , Donna Haraway, Maria Callas
> Grace Paley, Colette, Margaret Atwood, Regina Jose Galindo
> Leslie Marmon Silko, Eliabeth Cady Stanton, Nan Goldin, Linda Nochlin
> Boadicea, Lee Lozano, Sofia Perovskaya, Valie Export
> Hannah Wilke,Rosa Robata,Lee Krasner,Lourdes Casal Valdes
> Tracey Emin, Scheherazade,Billie Holliday, Amelia Bloomer
> Marina Abramovic, Angela Davis, Edie Sedgwick, Jessica Mitford
> Marguerite Duras, Phoolan Devi, Joan Didion, Felipa de Souza
> Kate Millett, Pina Bausch, Charlotte Corday, Lidia Cabrera
>
>       yet there are more....
>
>
> On Mar 5, 2011, at 9:42 PM, christina wrote:
>
> > Something is happening when a field becomes visible-- a field of
> > women in Bahrain countering a police line, a field of women in Ivory
> > Coast (shot down, six)--it's impossible not to speak of
> > this new site of action. Remember when the only (s)hero job for
> > women in the intifada was to get oneself blown up?
> >
> >
> > Two days from now will be March 8-- Internatinal Women's Day
> > Centenary  1911-2011.  http://www.internationalwomensday.com/
> >
> > What happens when finally enough people start to have faith that it
> > actually matters for half of humankind to have human rights?
> >
> > How does this field become visible?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > empyre forum
> > empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au
> > http://www.subtle.net/empyre
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 16:06:30 -0800
> From: christina <christina at christinamcphee.net>
> To: Ana Vald?s <agora158 at gmail.com>
> Cc: soft_skinned_space <empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
> Subject: Re: [-empyre-] most influential, most dangerous,       most
>        courageous women
> Message-ID: <9AD28F35-A6F1-470F-ABF4-A80BF7BBFADA at christinamcphee.net>
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>        delsp=yes
>
> To Ana,  and silent reading -empyreans--  ,
>
> Actually I am so glad you (Ana) point out my apparently limited view
> of intifada activity for women as limited to suicide.... My comment
> was deliberately hyperbolic-- incendiary on purpose, in that
> professorial way, as I hoped to wake up the list!!
>
>
> Let's ask  how there could be some more visibility for the amazing
> women who have struggled to counter the systems of control, here on -
> empyre-.   Specifically about this, not just in the context of other
> media/cultural topics.
>
> To perform this exercise is to make evident exactly why it's important
> to the theme of "How does a field become visible, when?"
>
>
> We know of some, if some go on to be able to publish their writing and
> other creative work and to enter multiple streams of political
> action-- as you have done.  Then there are so many who are as you call
> them 'common women' -- but not common in their courage.
>
>
> Here is the beginnings of a  list of 'most courageous women' --
> however you define 'woman' and of any era--.  several of us have been
> trying to create this week, with help from friends.. A few names are
> 'famous' but mostly not.
>
>
>
>
> Hoda Aminan
> Eula Gray
> Mary Wollstronecraft
> Mary Whang Choi
> Elizabeth Gurley Flynn
> Sussan Tamassebi
> Rosa Luxembourg
> Asadah Faramaziha
> Parvin Ardalan
> Suely Rolnick
> Esha Momeimi
> Axelline Soloman
> Elena Gil
> Phyllis Wheatly
> Frances E. W. Harper
> Gloria Anzaldua
> Shirin Ebadi
> Ingrid Washinawatok
> Ana Mendieta
> Marija Gimbutas
> Helen Keller
> Mercedes Amaiana
> Fusae Ichikawa
> Lola Rodriguez de Tio
> Florence Kelly
> Victoria Mxenge
> Nawal El-Saadawi
> Ada Lovelace
> Eileen Gray
> Pat Hearn
> Elizabeth Peratrovich
> Minerva Mirabal
> Sappho
> Sylvia Beach
> Marilyn Monroe
> Nancy Spero
> Minerva Bernardino
> Ginetta Sagan
> Lee Bul
> Margaret Atwood
> Lee Lozano
> Charlotte Moorman
> Jane Jacobs
> Joan Mitchell
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 6, 2011, at 3:06 PM, Ana Vald?s wrote:
>
> > Dear Christina, allow me to dissent a little bit :)
> > At the Intifada the women had a very crucial role, I met Leila
> > Khaled some years ago in Amman and her tale of her hitchjacking of
> > two planes in the Eighties: is really atonishing.
> > And I come myself from a generation of women engaged in gerilla
> > warfare in South America. I spent four years as political prisoner
> > in Uruguay for that.
> > I think it's a kind of media issue, we "common women" don't fit in
> > the hero's stereotyps.
> > Cheers
> > Ana
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 7:14 AM, christina <christina at christinamcphee.net
> > > wrote:
> >  'most dangerous' --...  with help from friends--
> >
> > Vera Zasulich, H?l?ne Cixhous, Patti Smith, Judith Butler
> > Amelia Bloomer, Scheherazade, Rosa Robata, Sofia Perovskaya
> > Lilith, Hildegard of Bingen, Carolee Schneemann, Adrian Piper
> > Cindy Sherman,  Julian of Norwich, bel hooks, Camille Paglia
> > Jingyu Xiang,Vivienne Westwood,  Isak Dinesen, Jeanne d'Arc
> > Gertrude Stein, Duygy Asena , Donna Haraway, Maria Callas
> > Grace Paley, Colette, Margaret Atwood, Regina Jose Galindo
> > Leslie Marmon Silko, Eliabeth Cady Stanton, Nan Goldin, Linda Nochlin
> > Boadicea, Lee Lozano, Sofia Perovskaya, Valie Export
> > Hannah Wilke,Rosa Robata,Lee Krasner,Lourdes Casal Valdes
> > Tracey Emin, Scheherazade,Billie Holliday, Amelia Bloomer
> > Marina Abramovic, Angela Davis, Edie Sedgwick, Jessica Mitford
> > Marguerite Duras, Phoolan Devi, Joan Didion, Felipa de Souza
> > Kate Millett, Pina Bausch, Charlotte Corday, Lidia Cabrera
> >
> >      yet there are more....
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mar 5, 2011, at 9:42 PM, christina wrote:
> >
> > Something is happening when a field becomes visible-- a field of
> > women in Bahrain countering a police line, a field of women in Ivory
> > Coast (shot down, six)--it's impossible not to speak of
> > this new site of action. Remember when the only (s)hero job for
> > women in the intifada was to get oneself blown up?
> >
> >
> > Two days from now will be March 8-- Internatinal Women's Day
> > Centenary  1911-2011.  http://www.internationalwomensday.com/
> >
> > What happens when finally enough people start to have faith that it
> > actually matters for half of humankind to have human rights?
> >
> > How does this field become visible?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > empyre forum
> > empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au
> > http://www.subtle.net/empyre
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > empyre forum
> > empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au
> > http://www.subtle.net/empyre
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > http://passagenwerk.wordpress.com
> > http://caravia.stumbleupon.com
> > http://www.crusading.se
> > Gondolgatan 2 l tr
> > 12832 Skarpn?ck
> > Sweden
> > tel +468-943288
> > mobil 4670-3213370
> >
> >
> > "When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth
> > with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been and there you
> > will always long to return.
> > ? Leonardo da Vinci
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 16:12:42 -0800
> From: christina <christina at christinamcphee.net>
> To: soft_skinned_space <empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
> Subject: Re: [-empyre-] most influential, most dangerous,       most
>        courageous women
> Message-ID: <FF187FA9-4EE8-49A1-AA9A-505CF5B9BF68 at christinamcphee.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>
> Ana wrote
>
> > At the Intifada the women had a very crucial role, I met Leila
> > Khaled some years ago in Amman and her tale of her hitchjacking of
> > two planes in the Eighties: is really atonishing.
> > And I come myself from a generation of women engaged in gerilla
> > warfare in South America. I spent four years as political prisoner
> > in Uruguay for that.
> > I think it's a kind of media issue, we "common women" don't fit in
> > the hero's stereotyps.
>
>
> Actually I am so glad you (Ana) point out my apparently limited view
> of intifada activity for women as limited to suicide.... My comment
> was deliberately hyperbolic-- incendiary on purpose, in that
> professorial way, as I hoped to wake up the list!!
> Let's ask  how there could be some more visibility for the amazing
> women who have struggled to counter the systems of control, here on -
> empyre-.   Specifically about this, not just in the context of other
> media/cultural topics.
>
> To perform this exercise is to make evident exactly why it's important
> to the theme of "How does a field become visible, when?"
> We know of some, if some go on to be able to publish their writing and
> other creative work and to enter multiple streams of political
> action-- as you have done.  Then there are so many who are as you call
> them 'common women' -- but not common in their courage.
>
> Here is the beginning of a  list of 'most courageous women' -- however
> you define 'woman' and of any era--.  several of us have been trying
> to create this week, with help from friends.. A few names are 'famous'
> but mostly not......
>
>
>
> Hoda Aminan
> Eula Gray
> Mary Wollstronecraft
> Mary Whang Choi
> Elizabeth Gurley Flynn
> Sussan Tamassebi
> Rosa Luxembourg
> Asadah Faramaziha
> Parvin Ardalan
> Suely Rolnick
> Esha Momeimi
> Axelline Soloman
> Elena Gil
> Phyllis Wheatly
> Frances E. W. Harper
> Gloria Anzaldua
> Shirin Ebadi
> Ingrid Washinawatok
> Ana Mendieta
> Marija Gimbutas
> Helen Keller
> Mercedes Amaiana
> Fusae Ichikawa
> Lola Rodriguez de Tio
> Florence Kelly
> Victoria Mxenge
> Nawal El-Saadawi
> Ada Lovelace
> Eileen Gray
> Pat Hearn
> Elizabeth Peratrovich
> Minerva Mirabal
> Sappho
> Sylvia Beach
> Marilyn Monroe
> Nancy Spero
> Minerva Bernardino
> Ginetta Sagan
> Lee Bul
> Margaret Atwood
> Lee Lozano
> Charlotte Moorman
> Jane Jacobs
> Joan Mitchell
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 6, 2011, at 3:06 PM, Ana Vald?s wrote:
>
> > Dear Christina, allow me to dissent a little bit :)
> > At the Intifada the women had a very crucial role, I met Leila
> > Khaled some years ago in Amman and her tale of her hitchjacking of
> > two planes in the Eighties: is really atonishing.
> > And I come myself from a generation of women engaged in gerilla
> > warfare in South America. I spent four years as political prisoner
> > in Uruguay for that.
> > I think it's a kind of media issue, we "common women" don't fit in
> > the hero's stereotyps.
> > Cheers
> > Ana
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 00:06:31 +0100
> From: Ana Vald?s <agora158 at gmail.com>
> To: soft_skinned_space <empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
> Subject: Re: [-empyre-] most influential, most dangerous,       most
>        courageous women
> Message-ID:
>        <AANLkTinGVZAQ7T0J-YDQ2+7rNsCjRohiRPfuzDXc9ztm at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>
> Dear Christina, allow me to dissent a little bit :)
> At the Intifada the women had a very crucial role, I met Leila Khaled some
> years ago in Amman and her tale of her hitchjacking of two planes in the
> Eighties: is really atonishing.
> And I come myself from a generation of women engaged in gerilla warfare in
> South America. I spent four years as political prisoner in Uruguay for
> that.
> I think it's a kind of media issue, we "common women" don't fit in the
> hero's stereotyps.
> Cheers
> Ana
>
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 7:14 AM, christina <christina at christinamcphee.net
> >wrote:
>
> >  'most dangerous' --...  with help from friends--
> >
> > Vera Zasulich, H?l?ne Cixhous, Patti Smith, Judith Butler
> > Amelia Bloomer, Scheherazade, Rosa Robata, Sofia Perovskaya
> > Lilith, Hildegard of Bingen, Carolee Schneemann, Adrian Piper
> > Cindy Sherman,  Julian of Norwich, bel hooks, Camille Paglia
> > Jingyu Xiang,Vivienne Westwood,  Isak Dinesen, Jeanne d'Arc
> > Gertrude Stein, Duygy Asena , Donna Haraway, Maria Callas
> > Grace Paley, Colette, Margaret Atwood, Regina Jose Galindo
> > Leslie Marmon Silko, Eliabeth Cady Stanton, Nan Goldin, Linda Nochlin
> > Boadicea, Lee Lozano, Sofia Perovskaya, Valie Export
> > Hannah Wilke,Rosa Robata,Lee Krasner,Lourdes Casal Valdes
> > Tracey Emin, Scheherazade,Billie Holliday, Amelia Bloomer
> > Marina Abramovic, Angela Davis, Edie Sedgwick, Jessica Mitford
> > Marguerite Duras, Phoolan Devi, Joan Didion, Felipa de Souza
> > Kate Millett, Pina Bausch, Charlotte Corday, Lidia Cabrera
> >
> >      yet there are more....
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mar 5, 2011, at 9:42 PM, christina wrote:
> >
> >  Something is happening when a field becomes visible-- a field of women
> in
> >> Bahrain countering a police line, a field of women in Ivory Coast (shot
> >> down, six)--it's impossible not to speak of
> >> this new site of action. Remember when the only (s)hero job for women in
> >> the intifada was to get oneself blown up?
> >>
> >>
> >> Two days from now will be March 8-- Internatinal Women's Day Centenary
> >>  1911-2011.  http://www.internationalwomensday.com/
> >>
> >> What happens when finally enough people start to have faith that it
> >> actually matters for half of humankind to have human rights?
> >>
> >> How does this field become visible?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> empyre forum
> >> empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au
> >> http://www.subtle.net/empyre
> >>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > empyre forum
> > empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au
> > http://www.subtle.net/empyre
> >
>
>
>
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> mobil 4670-3213370
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>
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> eyes turned skyward, for there you have been and there you will always long
> to return.
> ? Leonardo da Vinci
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