[-empyre-] Layers of ISEA2011: Corporate/Financial

Mon Sep 19 15:47:38 EST 2011

Hi all,
my impressions from Istambul are that this city is amazing and beautiful,
besides the fact that most of the people are usually friendly. All the
problems that I had are the same that you will have in Rio de Janeiro or
sometimes in São Paulo (the hotel guy trying to offer you his sister hotel
instead the one that you booked etc.). The city has huge and amazing parks,
besides the amazing historical sites.
The security measures that we have to go through to get into the ISEA
building are the same that we brazilians have to go to get inside a bank to
withdraw or deposit money in Brazil, so, nothing  new for someone that lives
under worst circumstances that people live in Turkey (btw I saw many banks
that still keep open ATMs on the streets, something impossible in Brazil
also....
Definitely Istambul is a city to be around...
best
Cicero

On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Timothy Conway Murray <tcm1 at cornell.edu>wrote:

> Hey, Tracey,
>
> Sorry not to meet up.  We talked a plain clothed guy to take us across the
> police lines and let us into the gallery; I should say that RENATE pulled
> this off since I don't have her persuasive powers (and she's less paranoid
> of riot police!).  Turns out that all those riot clad police (in full body
> armor, with shields and batons, and guns) and huge water canon were there to
> battle TEACHERS who had been protesting massive budget cuts.  And the art
> gallery was their staging ground on Taksim Square.  Now we've seen it all in
> Istanbul.  Renate and I head back to Ithaca, that's New York, tomorrow and
> look forward to carrying on the conversation throughout the next couple of
> weeks.
>
> Thanks so much to all those remaining through Wednesday for continued posts
> about Turkish artists and the conceptual implications of ISEA and the
> Istanbul Biennal.
>
> And thanks to all who joined us tonight for the gathering.
>
> Tim
>
> Director, Society for the Humanities
> Curator, Rose Goldsen Archive of New Media Art
> Professor of Comparative Literature and English
> A. D. White House
> Cornell University
> Ithaca, New York. 14853
> ________________________________________
> From: empyre-bounces at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au [
> empyre-bounces at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au] on behalf of Tracey M Benson [
> bytetime at gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 10:25 AM
> To: soft_skinned_space
> Subject: Re: [-empyre-] Layers of ISEA2011: Corporate/Financial
>
> Hi all,
>
> We attempted earlier to go to Cumhuriyet Art Gallery is located in
> Taksim Square to be told by plain clothes police all lined up along
> Istikilal Caddessi that the gallery is closed.
>
> Also - we noticed on all the side streets police assembling with riot
> gear and machine guns so decided against meeting with fellow empyreans
> for drinks.
>
> I have no idea why there was such a strong police presence - there
> seemed to be lots of guys with maroon and yellow soccer jerseys but I
> couldn't see a protest/demonstration along the street.
>
> Would be interested to know if any one else has any clues about what
> was happening in Taksim this afternoon.
>
> For those -empreans meeting at the ISEA lounge, have fun and hope to
> see some of you around Sabanci Center in the next few days.
>
> Regards
> Tracey .
>
> On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Lucas Bambozzi <lbambozzi at comum.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I am a lazy lurker and did not follow the whole discussion. But for me it
> seems that the model of panelism and conferencism adopted by ISEA and other
> related meetings does match the model of Sabanci Centre and commonly lacks
> the vibrant life outside there. Sao Paulo, a city where I live would not
> survive without the hundreds of corporate driven conferences filling up
> expensive hotels and feeding business tourism. I am not sure to which extend
> ISEA is able to create a model apart from this.
> >
> > Hope the drinks at Nuru Zya will last enough to refresh some discussions
> around this topic.
> >
> > BEst
> >
> > L.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Lucas Bambozzi
> > mobile: +5511 91892338
> > www.lucasbambozzi.net
> > www.artemov.net
> >
> >
> >
> > On 18 Sep 2011, at 05:24, Joseph Delappe wrote:
> >
> > > Hello all!
> > > Simon, I hope to see you in Istanbul!  I leave tomorrow.
> > >
> > > Fascinating exchange here regarding ISEA.  Istanbul has been
> fascinating.  ISEA a bit problematic for sure, from the security checkpoints
> to the blocked internet access onsite.  Unbelievable from my perspective -
> donated spaces or not absurd to hold such a gathering in what is essentially
> a censored corporate environment - perhaps there might have been a workshop
> the prior week to develop a hack to share with all attendees to break
> through the great Sabanci Center firewall?
> > >
> > > There have been some great presentations although the physical location
> of the panels and paper presentations feel a bit more like small classrooms
> than proper spaces for true exchange - these rooms in the 2nd basement of
> the Sabanci are not set up for true panel presentations - there is literally
> no space for all the panelists to sit facing the attendees - as such, in the
> panels I've attended, and even on the panel I chaired ("If you See Something
> Say Something"http://isea2011.sabanciuniv.edu/panel/say-something), the
> cramped space has tended to hinder the exchange and discussion.
> > >
> > > I am perhaps less surprised by the security at the buildings having
> read prior to my visit to Istanbul of bombings as recently at 2010.  Each
> entry to the Biennial has the same metal detectors as the Sabanci center
> although not the xray scanners for bags.
> > >
> > > I had a very interesting experience at the Istanbul Biennial that I
> would like to share.  We wandered through both of the exhibitions spaces -
> impressed by some of the works but immediately struck by the absence of any
> digital work and scant attention to even video art.  Most astounding though,
> was that we somehow missed the text statements at the two spaces until
> finally exiting the larger of the two buildings.  Honestly I was quite
> shocked upon reading that the theme of the biennial was to address "politics
> and art"?  Was I missing something?  Yes, there were some politically
> oriented work for certain - most impressively the display of found objects
> taken from blown up Palestinian homes, Marth Rosler's classic Vietnam Era
> montage work, Group Material and 1980's AIDS themed artifacts and a few
> others.  Mostly however, the show seemed to be full of work that was less
> than "political".  Am I missing something here?  If this exhibition
> represents the best of political art f
>  ro
> >  m
> > > Latin America and the Middle East we are in deep trouble!
> > >
> > > Istanbul has been truly amazing however - a bit challenging to find the
> venues for the exhibitions - the map in the brochure for ISEA is rather
> useless to be frank. There is something to be said about distributing events
> throughout a given city but one of such immense proportions as Istanbul
> presents to serious challenges to visitors.  Nagoya ISEA provided a
> different model of centralized spaces just adjacent to the conference
> spaces.  Certainly more convenient while also creating a sense of a critical
> mass of events and energy.  This ISEA feels a bit dispersed on many levels.
> > >
> > > Lastly, it was a very bad idea to schedule ISEA across two weeks?
>  There are so many academics from the US in particular who are now two,
> three weeks into our teaching schedules.  This weekend represents a
> departure of a huge portion of the attendees to ISEA and the arrival of a
> second group.  We cannot take two weeks off from our teaching duties to
> participate in such a conference!  Thus the organizers have essentially
> chosen to bifurcate ISEA.  Very frustrating as our $500+ conference fee
> seems a waste for being able to participate in roughly 1/2 of a conference.
> > >
> > > All the best and hope everyone coming in this weekend or remaining for
> the full term of the conference h,
> > > Joseph DeLappe
> > > Professor
> > > Digital Media Studio
> > > Department of Art/224
> > > University of Nevada, Reno
> > > Reno, Nevada 89557
> > > 775-784-6624
> > > delappe at unr.edu
> > > http://www.delappe.net
> > >
> > >
> > >
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