[-empyre-] Layers of ISEA2011: Corporate/Financial

[Ian Clothier]

Hi,

On the subject of the degree of security at Sabanci Centre I just wanted to let people know that part of the reason for the paranoia about security is that yes Sabanci University is owned by extremely wealthy people and one of them was assassinated last year. This information does shade the appreciation of security measures there. 

It doesn't however change much in regard to some of the other aspects expressed to the list.

Ian M Clothier 
Faculty of Humanities
Western Institute of Technology at Taranaki 
www.witt.ac.nz 
0064 6 757 3100 x 8895
Artist
ianclothier.com



-----Original Message-----
From: empyre-bounces at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au on behalf of norieneumark
Sent: Mon 9/19/2011 7:12 PM
To: soft_skinned_space
Subject: Re: [-empyre-] Layers of ISEA2011: Corporate/Financial
 
hi All,
long time no post. but seeing empyrians at drinks last night was exciting.
I know what you mean about Sabanci Towers however there is another side to this which is that one gets an experience of 'real life' that as a tourist or usual conference participant in a big hotel of university one never has. going out to 4.levent on the metro with the cogs in the corporate machine, going through their normal everyday security is pretty intense, memorable, and interesting. experienicing another side to this amazing city and culture and pricks the curiosity about the wealth.
and then to return via 3 forms of transport to the liveliness, megalopolis, 3 sided Istanbul is thrilling.
best
norie
n.neumark at latrobe.edu.au

On 17/09/2011, at 7:29 AM, Renate Ferro wrote:

> No don' t do that Simon, it is still pretty amazing to be in Istanbul and to see many friends who otherwise we communicate via list serve.  
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Sep 16, 2011, at 6:36 PM, Simon Biggs <simon at littlepig.org.uk> wrote:
> 
>> Great. I'm flying in tomorrow. I think I'll cancel.
>> 
>> best
>> 
>> Simon
>> 
>> 
>> On 16 Sep 2011, at 16:04, Nicholas Knouf wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello -empyre-,
>>> 
>>> I'd like to add another layer to the list: the corporate/financial one.
>>> 
>>> I want to write about the experience of entering into the main location
>>> for the conference, Sabanci Towers.  This requires being checked off of
>>> a list and then traveling through a metal detector with your belongings
>>> x-rayed.  You find yourself in front of two gleaming towers of uncountable
>>> numbers of floors that reflect
>>> the blue sky.  You realize that this is
>>> not the university, but rather the headquarters for Sabanci Holding
>>> (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Sabanci_Group), which
>>> appears to be the largest industrial and financial conglomerate in
>>> Turkey, while also the organization behind the founding of Sabanci
>>> University.  Once you make your way through men and women in perfectly
>>> tailored business suits and executives being escorted into Mercedes to be
>>> driven to power lunches, you find yourself in front of another metal
>>> detector and x-ray machine which may or may not be used (I didn't have
>>> to go through it when I entered).  Inside is bland corporate decor not
>>> unlike anything else in the globalized world.  Hacker or DIY space this
>>> certainly is not, and the internet seems to block anything that doesn't
>>> travel on ports 80 or 443 (meaning any local e-mail clients on computers
>>> or smartphones won't work; Blackberries won't work; and seemingly only web traffic will go through).  For your
>>> 400EURO fee you are still required to pay for pastries.
>>> 
>>> I find the totality of this environment rather problematic for an ostensibly academic
>>> and artistic conference and could write much more about it, but will
>>> refrain for the moment.  But I did want to describe this for those of
>>> you who are not in Istanbul.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> nick knouf
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> Simon Biggs
>> simon at littlepig.org.uk www.littlepig.org.uk @SimonBiggsUK skype: simonbiggsuk
>> 
>> s.biggs at ed.ac.uk Edinburgh College of Art University of Edinburgh
>> www.eca.ac.uk/circle www.elmcip.net www.movingtargets.co.uk
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