[-empyre-] welcome to paradise

Wed May 2 02:54:11 EST 2012

Hi everyone It was great to be connected and be part of this fraternity.
Ana would love to know more about you. Johannes you raise few important
questions would be great to continue this discussion tim and renatta would
this be possible on another platform? About new media art from India I
meant made by artists from India produced them. It would be interesting to
see the influence of origin, location in terms of usage of new media
itself. I mean not the content of the works but what iinfluences the
choices ...are they culturally determined?
Warmly
Arshiya

On Tuesday, May 1, 2012, Ana Valdes wrote:

> dear Johannes and all of you fellow empyreans! Today is my first Mayday
> day in the country I was born on it after 34 years of exile in Sweden and
> it's a day of mixed feelings. This day is now celebrated from the
> government, we have now a "worker's government".
> I contributed with four years of jail to put this people in charge. Am I
> happy? Did we acomplish what we believed when we fought idealistic and
> without very deep thoughts for an utopy, fora fairer world without social
> differences?
> Now I know with the facit on hand that we never made any endurable change
> because we did'nt know the only change comes from within.
> Cheers
> Ana
>
>
> Skickat från min iPhone
>
> 1 maj 2012 kl. 12:48 skrev Johannes Birringer <
> Johannes.Birringer at brunel.ac.uk <javascript:;>>:
>
> >
> > May-Day greetings to all comrades our there...
> > and perhaps time to discuss things need not stop after eight hours,
> > if we all slow down time just a bit?
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > From: empyre-bounces at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au [
> empyre-bounces at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au] On Behalf Of Renate Ferro [
> rtf9 at cornell.edu]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 4:26 PM
> > To: soft_skinned_space
> > Subject: Re: [-empyre-] welcome to paradise
> >
> > Thanks Johannes for actually asking two very important questions that
> > I'm hoping we can end our discussion with.  This discussion will be
> > open for another eight hours or so.  After that time I will be
> > introducing our next guest Anne Balsamo.
> >
> > Renate
> >
> > On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Johannes Birringer
> > <Johannes.Birringer at brunel.ac.uk> wrote:
> >> thank you, Motoba Naboko, for this very interesting posting.
> >>
> >>
> >> In regard to your example of "Welcome to Paradise,"  I'd be interested
> in asking whether you underlying question  - Which representation
> parameters do they identify with? -  refered to the generations of Africans
> living there, do the photographs (representations by others) of their
> presences (and pasts), their self-representations or fictionalizations,  or
> whether your question could be expanded to refer to audience in Spain, or
> in Europe or the West for that matter, and how how you track the question
> one's a show or exhibit like this, or a conceptual undertaking like this,
> travels to be shown elsewhere?
> >>
> >> thanks also to the comments by Arshiya which we received.  "Being
> Singular Plural"?   has anyone seen it and could we hear some comments?
>  (New media from India, that was your phrase, can you perhaps comment on
> how you mean this? do you refer to media productions made in India, or
> media arts works focussing on "India" and what would it be?  sorry i have
> not seen the show). When we talk in such terms of cultural location, or
> even "origin," what exactly do we mean,
> >> And in Veleko's case, how does one visit the "locals"?
> >>
> >>
> >> Finally, it puzzled me to no end that no one seems to disagree with
> Christiane's resigned-sounding point of view :
> >>
> >>>>
> >> ... the "globalized art world" seems to adhere to a largely Western
> paradigm of artistic expression. I was thinking about this phenomenon when
> I saw The Ungovernables (http://www.newmuseum.org/exhibitions/448) at The
> New Museum in NYC. I very much liked a lot of the art (only 3 artists were
> from the US), but -- the different subjects of the work aside -- most of
> the artists seemed to have gone to the same "art school" (no matter if they
> were from Africa or Colombia or ...). It would be great to see more art
> with a distinctly different aesthetic language from other parts of the
> world; I would assume that it is precisely this "difference" (visual or
> conceptual languages that are not easily categorizable) that poses problems
> for the global art scene. There is a need for more international curatorial
> voices who could introduce this art.
> >>>>
> >>
> >> I think there a great deal of work with  distinctly different aesthetic
> languages from other parts of the world existing and being produced.
> >>
> >> Your last sentence, Christiane, is a bit confusing to me, as surely you
> are not arguing that globalized/international curatorial voices
> should/could introduce globalized/international art scene art?  When you
> say "More international curatorial voices" (outside New York), whom do you
> have in mind?
> >>
> >> respectfully
> >>
> >> Johannes Birringer
> >> dap lab
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> motoba naboko  schreibt
> >>>>>
> >> I have been unable to follow up all the discussions, but since we have
> one more day to go I thought that it would be maybe useful to present you
> here some of the ways in which in my curatorial practice I have tried to
> challenge notions on Otherness and Western paradigms, particularly in
> relation to the so-called African Other…
> >>
> >> My first attempt was to

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