[-empyre-] landscapes and defenders

Johannes Birringer Johannes.Birringer at brunel.ac.uk
Sat Jan 26 02:06:54 EST 2013


dear all

crossing over to other time zones, with relief I note the snow filled hills and valleys in Germany, Luxembourg, Belgium and France, very beautiful to travel across, enveloped in the peaceful quiet of cold,  with changing snow-capped signs and bulletin boards greeting the traveler-by in various languages and genres of reference, mostly to landscapes and myths, sometimes haunting (numbers of people killed on this spot), mindful, of stories as well as historically marked sites, places of battles, victories & losses, former religions, places of art and reflection, monasteries and sanctuaries, race tracks, health spas, fine dining, places for children to play, a full world under grey wintry skies

(still wondering what Shu's oblique angle on Riefenstahl was).  


This debate this month surely will exhaust, no?


respectfully
Johannes Birringer


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 Phi Shu schreibt

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Quite clearly, in the context of creative practice, knowledge can be communicated in many different ways, therefore upholding the written word as the de facto method of assessment is a mistake and I think it is the duty of academics in this area to communicate to those holding the purse strings that actually, the written word is not the only means of communicating valid research outcomes.


The problem is whether this knowledge is research. The sky is blue today is a knowledge claim. Perhaps part of a SMS art work. But that is not yet research...So for me the problem I'd raise is while art objects in themselves clearly express knowledge this knowledge might not yet be research.


Yes, but the point is, especially with regard to PhD examination, that the examiners are supposed to be expert enough in their field to discern whether or not a practice based output qualifies as research, and without having to read why this might be so in an accompanying document. Yes, they may need something in writing, because it is still required, but it is  ultimately the work that is judged. That was my experience of things, and I was led to believe it was how things were done when dealing with practice based doctorates, in my discipline, at my university. Of course another aspect of this is ensuring that an external examiner that supports this approach is selected, otherwise it might not be as straight forward.
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