[-empyre-] empyre Digest, Vol 111, Issue 5

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> Today's Topics:
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>    1. Re: Week One - Between Print and Pixels: Computationality,
>       Post-Digital, Hybrid (adamhyde)
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> Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 12:03:42 -0800
> From: adamhyde <adam at flossmanuals.net>
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> Subject: Re: [-empyre-] Week One - Between Print and Pixels:
>         Computationality, Post-Digital, Hybrid
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> hi
>
> I was hoping the conversation would evolve but it seems a little quiet
> so many apologies if I am stepping in and breaking protocol a little but
> I enjoyed Alessandros opening points very much and wanted to ask for his
> further comment on one point.
>
> "what if digital has been mistaken for a medium but actually is an agent
> that has transformed existing media? I've started to investigate other
> traditional media (audio and video, for example) and how their core form
> is formally still coherent with their analogue one, but substantially
> transformed by its current digital nature."
>
> I think this is an interesting issue and I was curious if this has been
> the behaviour of media from the beginning? A cone transformed the voice,
> radio transformed the cone, the codex transformed the scroll etc. I
> bring this up because the 'core form' you refer to is perhaps already a
> multi-hybridised outcome of decades/centuries of transformation. Perhaps
> one of the core roles of any new medium, analog or digital, is to
> transform the old. Any thoughts to that? If it were true then 'digital'
> could be *both* a medium and a transformative agent.
>
> adam
>
>
>
> On 02/06/2014 01:42 AM, Alessandro Ludovico wrote:
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> >
> > Thanks Michael for the nice introduction.
> >
> > It seems that Post-Digital aspires to become a 'buzzword' lately, but
> > its meaning seems to be not completely acknowledged.
> > Many refer to the definition of Kim Cascone in his famous article "The
> > Aesthetics of Failure: "Post-digital" Tendencies in Contemporary
> > Computer Music", and Wikipedia collects also a fair good amount of
> > other (close) definitions. But many of them are dated a few years ago
> > and still attached to the concept of the digital disappearing in
> > everyday practice, being in a way 'metabolised'.
> >
> > My personal definition (given within the
> > Post-digital Research conference and PhD Workshop in Aarhus, in
> > October 2013) is that "Post-digital is the space left by the (only
> > apparent) absence of digital."
> > The "space" here is meant as a negotiable abstract space, previously
> > filled by the digital in its evident forms and interfaces, and now
> > perceptually disappeared, although still there, present, active and
> > eventually engaging us in a new relationship also with non-digital
> > reality.
> > In its application to the complex and ever mutating relationship
> > between traditional and digital (or offline and online, if you want)
> > publishing, the concept of the 'hybrid' publications seems to be
> > crucial then.
> > I tried to define 'hybrid' as a a publication where it's almost
> > impossible to separate or discern the physical from the digital
> > processes behind, as it'd be the inextricable result of computed
> > processes in a recognisable publishing form (eventually upgradeable or
> > simply changing over time).
> > There are quite a few example of early steps towards the hybrid:
> > Martin Fuchs and Peter Bichsel's book "Written Images", "American
> > Psycho" by Mimi Cabell & Jason Huff, Les Liens
> > Invisibles' "Unhappening, not here not now", or the recent "The Death
> > of the Authors, 1941 edition" by Constant (An Mertens, Femke Snelting).
> > Still it seems that we're not there yet, as we'd need more elaborated
> > software instruments transcending the generative paradigm, or a simple
> > inclusion/exclusion logic.
> >
> > In this sense the Post-Digital Research newspaper publication
> > represents another attempt, conjugating the reflection around various
> > post-digital approaches with its final printed from, in quite a few
> > textual and graphical interesting processes (used in experimental
> > literature or just borrowed from online free tools) involving the
> > writing form, the expression of the different concepts, and the final
> > visual rendering of all of that.
> >
> > But the hybrid would epitomises the metabolisation of digital in a way
> > that it doesn't simply 'disappear' (or better, we are not noticing it
> > anymore), finally becoming one of our daily natural nutrients, with an
> > active role that breaks all the boundaries (being relegated in a
> > device, or to a specific cultural environment that we associate with it).
> >
> > This is the starting point of an hypothesis I formulated in the last
> > Transmediale panel, which can maybe sound a bit blatant:
> > what if digital has been mistaken for a medium but actually is an
> > agent that has transformed existing media? I've started to investigate
> > other traditional media (audio and video, for example) and how their
> > core form is formally still coherent with their analogue one, but
> > substantially transformed by its current digital nature.
> >
> > The hybrid in publishing, in this sense, is actually embodying this
> > passage very well, as it points us back to traditional media and their
> > possible active and engaging relationship with the digital.
> >
> >
> > To add more resources to the list:
> >
> > there has been a special issue of Neural called "Neural #44,
> > Post-Digital Print (Postscript)" (a friend nicknamed it the "shameless
> > issue") which was meant as an addendum to the book with more content
> > related to the topic.
> > http://neural.it/issues/neural-44-post-digital-print-postscript/
> >
> > The Post-Digital Print blog is still in beta, but it'll host within
> > this week also the pdf of all the three Mag.net <http://Mag.net>
> > Readers, free to download:
> > http://postdigitalprint.org
> > It's meant to be a complement to the terrific resource that Silvio
> > Lorusso is making with its Post-Digital Publishing Archive:
> > http://p-dpa.net
> >
> > I'm also curating (for another month and half, with a final special
> > event in Paris on March 11th) "Erreur d'Impression, Publier ? l'?re du
> > Num?rique" a virtual exhibition at Jeu de Paume:
> > http://espacevirtuel.jeudepaume.org/erreur-dimpression-1674/
> >
> > Indeed, Post-Digital Print, the book, has also a physical form
> > (although we successfully experimented with its digital form just
> > before that):
> >
> http://www.onomatopee.net/project.php?progID=c3149ad5e7c0b4bb6e80e4c770ee528c
> >
> > Although all more or less connected to my personal work, I hope that
> > they can help the discussion.
> >
> >
> >> I want to invite Alessandro to start off the discussion. Many of you
> >> are no doubt familiar with his work, but if not, I want to draw
> >> attention to his recent book, 'Post-Digital Print: The Mutation of
> >> Publishing Since 1894' (Onomatopee 2012):
> >>
> http://monoskop.org/images/a/a6/Ludovico,_Alessandro_-_Post-Digital_Print._The_Mutation_of_Publishing_Since_1894.pdf
> >> (The fact that text is legit available through the Monoskop Log is
> >> perhaps noteworthy itself).
> >>
> >> I would describe his book as a history of experimental aesthetic
> >> practices articulated through new publishing technologies, and one
> >> that speaks in particular to the concept of the post-digital. More
> >> generally, it's a tremendous document of a vast array of projects,
> >> artworks, print objects, books, pamphlets and magazines that is
> >> characteristic of print culture in late modernity and beyond.
> >>
> >> The post-digital, in particular, is a term that I'm inviting
> >> Alessandro to discuss, along with related ideas that have emerged
> >> through his research. And it's particularly relevant off the back of
> >> Transmediale Festival last week given the Post-Digital Research panel
> >> and newspaper publication. The latter is a series of short texts that
> >> have been collaboratively peer-reviewed through a workshop on the
> >> topic held at Aarhus University last year:
> >> https://tm-resource.projects.cavi.au.dk/?page_id=1291 Unfortunately,
> >> a PDF is not available yet, but Alessandro I'm sure will give an
> >> impression of the contents of this publication.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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